Warner sums up Allar in 6 minutes

to coin a phrase?

 

I think how the Allar story works out is very simple. Making it happen...very complex.

Guy scores very high on the things you can't teach. Size, athleticism, arm strength, etc.

Guy scores very low in the things that can be coached. Footwork, processing and decision making, understanding and awareness. We can all talk about why but none of that matters now. He enters his rookie season in a brand new (even to us) environment and a clean slate.

The sports world is littered with coaches who know a lot more than me and look at a player and said "I can fix that". There are a lot of great stories of that working out in all sports. There are even more stories that we never hear about because they never turned into success. I was not a fan of Allar with what little I watched of him at PSU, but now I hope for nothing more than him and/or Howard busting out. I have no doubt that leading up to the draft MM told the FO that he believes he can turn Allar into an NFL QB and that was the driving force in the pick. It's just one more reason why the new staff and new start will be a great watch.

 

And this before the diva era when player salaries got so out of control that coach's hands were tied.

 

I wonder if this would have helped Ben to reach his potential

 

Ben was not a student of the game like Manning and Brady. If Ben had Manning's brain... he probably would have won 2 more SBs.

 

I don't think Ben could have ever played that way. Making unscripted, playground plays were his specialty. He could never have been a follow the script, trust the process kind of QB.

 

IMO this is like a classical guitar player trying to tell a jass guitar player how to play the guitar. They both are great players with different thought processes. Also Ben, and Mannings playoff statistics are about almost identical .

 

Yes

Neither were good

 

Both won it all twice...

 

Ben helped win one helped loose one and absolutely sucked in one where the long snapper played better

 

It’s a really good clip. Drew Allar was one of the 30 players we brought in, and we didn’t waste the opportunity.Mike McCarthy was working on Allar’s stance. I think he want to widen it a bit — along with his back leg placement and getting his entire body into the throwing motion. A good beat writer who actually understands quarterback mechanics should’ve asked McCarthy for specifics on what they were cleaning up. But of course, they didn’t.

Allar is a little behind technically, but that’s fixable. Most quarterbacks taken in the third round end up starting at least 20 games in their careers. The plan is to have him ready to start by 2027 after two full camps.Here’s hoping we just added another name to the list of successful third-round QBs who won Super Bowls — right alongside Nick Foles and Russell Wilson.

 

This pretty much sums it up. The "uncoachables" look good. The arm, the size, the frame, etc... The "coachable" items are the things that he was bad at. Footwork, accuracy, processing, reading the defense, awareness... there's a ton there that needs to be fixed. Hopefully McCarthy can get him to improve all of it. I'd be hopeful that we could improve at least some of it.

 

I enjoy Warner's analysis because he is willing to be critical for the things he should be critical about. That said, I'd love to see him analyze his own college tape with that same hard eye.

Point being that these guys enter the league with for the most part enough talent. At a minimum. And the ones that end up making their bones at this level are inevitably the ones with that extra competitive drive, that willingness to do long hours of work on the details from mechanics to scheme and everything in between. In other words they develop a great deal, just like we saw with Warner. Is Allar going to be one of them? Who the hell knows. I sure hope he is. But again his tape is fugly.

 

This sounds very similar to the story I read about Josh Allen improving his accuracy. They digitally mapped his throwing motion to highlight where the fixes needed to focus.

The Technology Used to Assess Josh Allen's Throwing Mechanics

 

This 100%
The ones that end up good are working at it in some capacity whether people want to believe it or not.
I can use Ben for example, and many think he didn't work on things, and was lazy, but if You actually watched his progress with a critical eye you would see how he worked on things. Early in his career he could only throw on the run on one side , and of course the opposition recognized this, but what did he do, he worked till he could throw pretty accurately either way. Also his ability to read a defense was slow at the beginning, and so he had to buy time a lot to see, and get guys open, later he became so good at it that he had some of the fastest times at getting rid of the ball. What I'm getting at is many of these guys get one thing working, and they think that's enough. Like the guitar player that only plays pentatonic scales. LoL

 

Me

I’m half full if I’m pouring and half empty if I’m drinking

But I do like the post

 

Hell no regarding Tomlin. Tomlin's main ethos about QBs was mainly based on intangibles; clutch gene namely. He would talk about specifics such as accuracy or arm strength but in the general sense.


Mike McCarthy has historically and, even now, preached the importance of fundamentals, basics and principles; all stemming from the importance of lower body mechanics. Footwork, base when throwing, rolling of the hips during the throw, etc. However, this just isnt applied to QBs but Offensive Lineman as well (hint hint).