This makes me feel a little better

So, a bunch of coaches that did squat.

 

I know this is before Your time in watching football, but he was a OC for the Browns before Cowher hired him as a Wrs coach.

 

So, a bunch of coaches that did squat.[/QUOTE]
I also know a bunch of then didn't start with Bill Belichick anyway, and Yet they get called a Belichick tree. It just seems like Tomlin is the only HC that apparently has to be the only coach a guys has to be called his coaching tree.
Example Romeo Crennal was a coach for Giants, Jets, and a DC for the Browns before He ever went to work for Belichick, and yet somehow he's a Belichick Coaching Tree. LoL. Yet Arians isn't a Tomlin coaching tree. Male that make sense

 

What this shows is facts don't matter over feelings

 

It's not well stated unless you believe being a Wr coach is the same as being a OC. If You hire me as a box boy, and then quit, and the next guy in charge sees potential in me a supervisor, and we do great with me there, the guy that kept me as a box boy in the basement doesn't get credit for it.

 

Not true. If You only worked under one coach, but that's not what I'm getting at , I'm get that if they are then Arians is

 

I knew that... I remember when the Browns scored 33 points in a playoff game in Pittsburgh with Arians as their OC, and it was with their backup QB.

It was still Cowher who brought him to Pittsburgh after 2003, not Tomlin.

 

As a Wrs coach. A Wrs coach isn't a OC.

 

I don't think Arians would been our OC if he was with a another team...Tomlin love the continuity who is a good thing when thing look very good like it was the case for the steelers 20 years ago

 

The point is He was a Wr coach with Cowher, and a OC with Tomlin.
Again if I hire You to be the janitor of my company, and then I quit, and Blast comes in , and takes my place, and He makes You a supervisor of a part of the company, and you guys do well with you there, hell you are the best company for two different years with you as the supervisor. Then I shouldn't get credit because I hired you as a janitor. Blast should get credit for making you the supervisor.
All I'm trying to say is the same people say other coaches are from certain coaching trees , and yet say Arians , isn't are using double standards.

 

Fat man? Who's the fat man? Your mother?

 

Arians early in his career coached under freaking Bear Bryant, but some fans want to act like Cowher deserves credit for Arians career .

 

I also know a bunch of then didn't start with Bill Belichick anyway, and Yet they get called a Belichick tree. It just seems like Tomlin is the only HC that apparently has to be the only coach a guys has to be called his coaching tree.
Example Romeo Crennal was a coach for Giants, Jets, and a DC for the Browns before He ever went to work for Belichick, and yet somehow he's a Belichick Coaching Tree. LoL. Yet Arians isn't a Tomlin coaching tree. Male that make sense[/QUOTE]
I'm like what's the point of listing those coaches, yeah they worked under Belichick but they sucked. The only guy from Belichick's tree to have a winning record is O'Brien .

 

Other than that, it was just a smart assed remark from me

Nothing more

 

Not true...I just said that it was Cowher who hired Arians with the steelers

 

I'm still sorting through this mess to decide which side I should take.....

 

It sounds like you need some shade. Take a look at this coaching tree since you brought up his name.

Key Members of the Belichick Coaching Tree (NFL Head Coaching Roles)

• [Bill O'Brien]: Texans (2014–2020), 52–48 record (most wins among BB's tree. He did not suck ).
• [Romeo Crennel]: Browns (2005–08), Chiefs (2011–12), Texans (2020).
• [Brian Daboll]: Giants (2022–present).
• [Josh McDaniels]: Broncos (2009–10), Raiders (2022–23).
• [Brian Flores]: Dolphins (2019–2021).
• [Matt Patricia]: Lions (2018–2020).
• [Joe Judge]: Giants (2020–2021).
• [Eric Mangini]: Jets (2006–08), Browns (2009–10).
• [Jim Schwartz]: Lions (2009–2013)

Former Belichick players in Mike Vrabel and Kliff Kingsbury also become head coaches.[/QUOTE]

Joel...how do you define whether or not a coach is in someone's coaching tree?

 

Haley had Bell in the red zone. Arians had Parker and Mendenhall who were good RBs....but those RBs were not WR/RB hybrid like Bell.

 

Joel...how do you define whether or not a coach is in someone's coaching tree?[/QUOTE]
I know one thing nobody counts former players as part of some coaching tree, and Kingsbury barely had an NFL career .

 

Even DeAngello Williams was a better red zone RB that Parker and Mendenhall.Parker was also washed after 2007

 

Agreed, but doesn't change the fact the offense overall was better with Haley in charge. Maybe it was better talent, but that's part of the pie.

 

I thought the steelers should go after a younger coach but I'm beginning to warm up to him. I'm hoping he can make something of either Allar or Howard. They also have another undrafted QB on the roster that they were saying good things about. Can't remember his name. I'm now looking forward to training camp

 

I wanted them to go after a young coach as well. However, it dawned on me I had essentially picked someone out of a hat. Considering the Steelers need a coach that can develop a qb and the majority of new coaches fail McCarthy was the correct decision imo. He has been successful at the nfl level and developed several nfl franchise quarterbacks. He was the only one that really made any sense

 

I agree, and I don't. LoL
I would rather have a young Defensive minded HC, but as I've said quite a few times before, I would love to say in 5 years that this was an awesome hire.

 

I gotta tell you that pic of you brings a smile to my face every time I see it