Grade the overall draft

The same head coach who was 54-74 in his career.....

 

you cannot "grade" a draft the same year it occurs. But ok. I'll give it an F++++

 

This is incredibly disrespectful, IMO...

At least he has a football career to talk about. He played as a pro, and coached at the highest level. By your stat above, 128 games worth. I would wager any amount that despite his win/loss record, Herm Edwards has forgotten more about the game of football than you have ever known about the game.
You play to win the game. That is it. There is a very real reason why those words are iconic today. Not because of who said them, because of what they represent.

 

Playing to win the game would be Steelers rolling the dice on some young QBs to see if they have what it takes to be winning QBs... possible franchise QB. QB is everything in the AFC and the NFL if you haven't noticed. Playing to win 9 games and lose a wildcard playoff game with a washed up QB is not "Playing to WIN the game" in the long run. Steelers used to be about playing to WIN the BIG GAME.... the god damn Super Bowl.

So sick of arguing with people who want the status quo.

 

Not what my post was about, but I appreciate your opinion on the organization.

 

Not targeting you exclusively... just people here who are OK with the same ol, same ol. Sooner or later Steelers are gonna have to pay the piper and try out some young QBs.

 

Well, we currently have 2 QBs that have never taken an NFL snap. How young do we want to go?
Take the players you have on roster. Put the best team you can on the field with that roster. Try to go 1-0 each week.

 

That's what I'm saying.... we have to start somewhere. Treading out old QBs is not gonna get the team anywhere in the long run and it prolongs the inevitable. Time to roll the dice. Has to be done sooner or later.

 

Looks to me like it's currently being done. You can't get any more younger at QB than what we have.

 

Not if Rodgers decides to come back. He's not gonna sit the bench behind Howard and Allar.

 

It's not like they will just sit there and watch if Rodgers, or Rudolph, win the starting job. It's not an all or none type thing.

 

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with accidentally tanking by trying out young QBs. Roll the dice and let the chips fall where they may.

 

Bringing up the guy's poor record as a head coach is not disrespectful. Not everyone is going to genuflect before anyone who has been a NFL head coach.

 

You're right. The team should be trying to win every single game they play. You should play and coach as hard as you can to win that game.

The thing is that you can still do that with a young quarterback and hope that he continues to play better with more playing time. It's difficult for a quarterback to get better without playing.

I think that's all anyone is trying to say.

 

I don't remember taking it that far.

 

Wait what?? Read the 1st two sentences you wrote, and tell me how that makes sense??
You think a team is no closer to the SB just because the end result is not a SB. LoL. Once You make the playoffs, no team is closer to a SB than the two teams that actually make it. There is no stepping stone. Otherwise Bill, Ravens, Lions, andTexans would have all made it at least once to a SB in the last 3 years.
Again you appear to not have read all that has been said.
Again if picking high was what it took Jets, Arizona, Browns, Bengals, Lions, Raiders all would have been to multiple SBs, and I don't want to hear about coaching. They've all had multiple coaches during that time. It's not where you pick , it's who You pick. Last , and final note.
I know this for a fact, and nobody in the world can dispute this......You can not win playoff games, and make the SB if You can't make the playoffs.

 

No, the part about genuflecting was a little hyperbole on my part, but you did write that the poster was being disrespectful by bringing up his poor won-loss record, which it very much is not.

 

Your plan have been in use by the Bengals, Browns, Arizona, Jets and many others for decades, and boy has it helped. LoL Yet the Steelers plan has brought us to 8 SBs, and won 6. Now with that said who's plan seems to be better???

 

And when the potential of that was discussed with Rodgers right after the draft he probably balked

Hence the UFA Tender showing up when it did

 

LoL. Apparently you need to look up stepping stone.

 

The steelers plan have been outdated at this point.....Teams like the cardinals,browns,Jets,titans,their problem their front office was so bad in the past.The bengals are too cheap

Do you remember some of the awful take by a former Jets GM who is now a analyst on espn?


https://steelersdepot.com/2025/07/f...d-have-better-career-than-ben-roethlisberger/

This is just one example.This is how bad the Jets are...I never said that Front office don't matter.It take the right people who know what to do with the assets that you have

 

You notice how I don't make excuses, and I just state facts. I bring up a team, and what they have done, or not done by doing what You say, and you give me excuses of why it didn't work for them.

 

Again, you are missing the point. Its not thst complicated. A superstar at any position is great. But if you had the option of the best player at each position, youd probably rather have Brady, Montana, Marino, over Reed, Polanalu or Lynch.

Prime QB beats prime Safety. And you can run that experiment on down


That said, you cant judge these choice's after the fact. That's silly. There are many cant miss prospects that missed and many overlooked prospects that hit. But if you assume all prospects will hit at similar rates, at different positions, you draft the ones at higher value positions. Assuming you don't already have a hit ar said positions.

What any particular superstar did ( Polamalu or Brady) isn't the point What you want is to judge the NFL as a whole and recognize what positions have greater impact on overall success assuming a hit... Not whether one individual player in the past at some position was great Since neither you nor I can predict the next Polamalu or Brady.


QB, T, Edge, CB, WR, DT, G.... In that order. Play this game constantly and you'll win more in the long run. There is almost always someone with a 1st round grade in those 7 positions and you almost always need one. Pick there.