Welcome to the Steelers Drew Allar

I was going to try to explain more, but I can see that it wouldn't matter to you and would be a waste of my time.

In the end, it doesn't matter what either of us think. We will find out how things go over the next couple seasons.

 

Agreed

Right now it’s a clean slate and let’s see what he does

 

So not having a quality wide receiver to throw to doesn't matter, tells me what you know.

 

That is why I don't mind them taking a swing there, but I'm not optimistic.

 

This is what's odd to me and why I respond to some of your posts. Maybe you don't mean it this way, but the way you worded this, it comes across as belittling what one QB did in college while making assumptions unknown about the other QB. But you also post why are fans dividing and taking sides between the 2. When this would just fuel that.


The thing about Howard that I do like, is that after being benched at KSU for Skylar Thompson, he came back and won the Big12 with a team that was not nearly as talented as the OSU team. But that resolve is what earned him that job at OSU that lead to his easy championship.
I don't know if it was on this site or on the old SteelersUniverse site, but I started aWill Howard thread before his OSU season even started. He was on my radar back then. And I saw nothing that took him off my radar. To answer your question, maybe if Allar had had those WRs he would have been selected in the 6th round in last years draft. But he stayed an extra year and got selected in the 3rd round this draft instead. Maybe that means they like him twice as much? JK


Moving ahead to the Steelers needing a franchise QB, I could not care less if it is Howard, Allar, Rudolph, or the next guy. I'm not a fan of the Big10 so that doesn't matter to me at all either. I just want one of these guys to be great as a Steeler. I really am looking forward to TC and this competition.

 

I didn't watch PSU. Was it an actual choke job? Or did his team just let him down in those big games? And yes, both can be true.

 

I stated such in 2024 and got laughed at.


I guess pattern recognition is one hell of a skill.

 

Oh, I'm so sorry I'm so ignorant. But by all means feel free to educate me. He continually missed open receivers, especially in the short and medium game. He was horrendous trying to throw screens. Those throws you would expect be executed better by a top flight QB. So I appreciate the chat right up to the knowing thing.

 

This.


Drew needs a hard factory reset; confidence being key. Him being brought along while gaining his confidence back can do wonders. Should he put it all together, one has truly something special to work with.

 

Scouting Report: Strengths

• Throws with effortless velocity and spin rate that make NFL-caliber windows accessible; balls jump off his hand on intermediate crossers and dig routes with the kind of zip that collapses throwing lanes in real time.
• At 6-foot-5 and 235 pounds, he has the frame and build that offensive coordinators draw up on whiteboards when they close their eyes and imagine their franchise quarterback.
• When he trusts his base and drives through his front foot, he can drop the ball into a bucket 40 yards downfield with a trajectory that takes away the safety's closing angle entirely.
• Competitive runner who will lower his shoulder into a linebacker on third-and-short without flinching; carried designed read-option looks and picked up 302 rushing yards and six touchdowns as a junior.
• Can manipulate his arm slot from a standard three-quarter delivery to sidearm or over-the-top depending on the rush lane, giving him the ability to muscle throws out around edge pressure when the pocket tightens.
• Put the tape on from West Virginia in 2024 and you see a quarterback capable of rhythm timing throws with real anticipation, firing to vacated spots before the coverage arrives on multiple reps.
• Takes care of the football at an elite rate across his career; a 1.19% interception rate over 843 career attempts speaks to a conservative decision tree that, at minimum, keeps the offense from bleeding out.
• His release is quick and compact for a quarterback his size, grading out well above average in release speed, which gives him the ability to survive tighter pockets than most 6-foot-5 passers can.

Scouting Report: Weaknesses

• Short-area accuracy remains a legitimate concern; his ball placement on screens, quick slants, and check-downs grades out well below what NFL coordinators demand from their starting quarterbacks.
• Footwork is a constant battle, and when his base deteriorates under pressure he becomes a completely different thrower, reverting to flat-footed deliveries that sail on him or die at the receiver's ankles.
• Field processing and post-snap reads remain alarmingly raw for a three-year starter; he bird-dogs his primary target, and when the first look isn't there, the eyes drop and the play falls apart instead of working to the second or third option.
• Interior pressure wrecks him in a way that's unusual for a pocket passer this size; rather than climbing the pocket or stepping up into throwing lanes, he drifts backward and to the side, compounding the problem.
• The 2025 regression stripped away the benefit of the doubt: without Tyler Warren manufacturing easy completions underneath, Allar's big-time throw rate cratered to a career-worst 2.5% while his turnover-worthy play rate climbed, exposing a dependence on scheme and supporting cast rather than individual growth.

No one knows for certain how he will turn out. One thing we all agree on(or at least should) is we hope he makes us forget Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.

 

You responded to me with an attitude, as always.

Then I give you my opinion. You make a couple snide remarks and there is of course your "against the rules" feedback.

Never did I insult you. I am posting stats and personnel to refute your points. Now I get this bull**** that I'm belittling a quarterback, when the whole conversation started when I responded to a poster that said Will Howard is 10 times the quarterback that Drew Allar is. His words. I responded to that, and then YOU responded to me to back him up.

Then in the post right after this one that I'm responding to, you claim you didn't watch Penn State play, and you are asking another poster if Allar "choked"?

You tell everyone that you don't watch Penn State, yet you came at me in this thread responding to a stupid post by someone else, and claim I am the one belittling someone while mentioning you are somehow offended by something I posted at another message board that no longer exists.

At SteelersUniverse, I actually had a thread rating all the quarterbacks that season. I had Cam Ward, Jaxson Dart, Tyler Shough, and then a group of quarterbacks after that. I said I thought Howard was more of a late fourth to early fifth round quarterback and actually listed many of the positive aspects of his game and stated he was a steal in the sixth round. I have been happy they took him and have rooted for him to do well and supported him from then until now.

When I talk about football, you are going to get what I really feel about a player. It's funny how you didn't respond to me breaking down Drew Allar and I talked about his immense talent, but then also talked about his horrible footwork and how he doesn't always process things well and I beleive it's because of the coaching staff and the offense that doesn't provide enough sophistication in the offense to give him the outs that he needs and the talent at WR. He throws off his back foot way too often and relies on his arm too much. Even his throwing motion has to be tweaked and synced with his feet and legs.

But I guess you just didn't see those posts or maybe chose to ignore those posts and come at me here.

 

I was very careful to not do any of those things you just accused me of with this post, while writing my last post. I started my point by not mentioning either QBs by name to show I'm only talking about the post to which I responded. And specifically to the part where you ask if Allar had had the WRs that Howard did his one year at OSU, what would the results have been. All the other posts you mention are their own. I was only responding to that single post. Yes, I have responded to you in this thread before, but outs not an ongoing point. This was a separate point I was trying to make.


I think you are reading my posts with a tone and attitude applied to them that I have not intended them to have. I think that stems from a debate you and I had years ago about KP. I wish we could get past that.

 

Here's you purposefully mocking me by saying you never read the original comment by the poster saying Howard was 10 times the quarterback Drew Allar is. You say you only read that he won big games.

You intentionally try to make it confrontational instead of just responding to the stats I posted showing both quarterback's entire career passing stats.

That's you in a nutshell. You make passive aggressive remarks and then try to act like you're stunned about something else someone says and try to make people believe that the other poster is somehow doing something wrong.

If you don't like the way I post, don't respond to anything I post. No skin off my back. That way we don't have to do this stupid word salad thing that you try to turn everything into instead of just talking football.

 

You might forget Bradshaw and Roethlisberger

Steelers fans will not

 

Wow, I wonder how then did he complete 66.5% of his passes as a junior and 64.8% of his passes as senior since he missed open receivers (there were no such thing at Penn State) and missed them especially in the short and medium game. I wonder how he could complete more than 65% of his passes if he couldn't complete a screen pass. Hmmmmm. It's a mystery. But you know best.

 

Certainly feel alot better with Mike McCarthy developing Allar than Mike Tomlin. He has a chance at least with McCarthy. If it's a hit, it changes everything for the Steelers. But my guess is Rodgers plays one more year and you let Allar and Howard develop more next year and then let them Duke it out for 2027.

 

Allar is a project. He got drafted for raw arm talent and physical traits. That's it. He will be at the bottom of the QB depth chart.

Howard won at KSU which opened the door for winning a championship at Ohio. Made clutch throw after clutch throw and won. Had a shaky combine which affected his draft stock. But aced his pro day.

Allar has done none of these things. Perhaps his combine was better. That's it. Allar will not be ahead of Howard in depth chart unless injury. A good guy to develop but hasn't proved really anything. Maybe new coaches, better receivers, new environment will make him be that talented reliable QB we all want. But this is all maybe, hopefully,

Howard has the receipts, the fourth quarter clutch throws, the winning big games, the leadership. He has done it. Allar need to find his confidence. The development will take time and its still a question mark.

 

I just want to see them hit with one of these guys. You're right. I think McCarthy definitely is better at developing quarterbacks than Tomlin.

What you say about Rodgers is where I am with it too. They probably want one more year with him, he helps the young QBs learn to operate within the offense, and then see what they got and compete for the job in 2027.

 

This is a must watch.






Allar speaks well when interviewed by Florio and Simms.



And him throwing at the combine






I would be most interested to hear Ben's opinion on Allar.!


All certain looks ( size ) and throws ( arm talent ) the part. You can see by his interviews he speaks and understands the quarterback position.


It feels like we landed a real winner at quarterback and watching the above reinforces that thought.

 

THIS IS ACCURATE.

But Drew had dog coaching and PSU did not have anything close to talent at Wide Receiver. Factor that is his perfomace we must.

But that was then and this is now.

Now he has good coaching and talent at Wide Receiver.

The man has great size and arm talent. He appears to be aware of what he need to work on.

I view him as a good poor man's Josh Allen. Less prone to throw interceptions and run for yardage. But he has that type of arm and size!

 

Would be awesome. I don't actually care which Qb becomes great. Howard, or Allar. I just want one of them to become great. What I hope doesn't happen is Allar gets more looks because He .....
1. Was a higher draft pick.
2. He cost more, and therefore they want the money well spent.
3. He was drafted with McCarthy in mind.
I want a real competition between them, and may the best Qb win.