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Pickett ranked worst first rd QB in last 5 years

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Then why did Ravens compete better vs Patriots? We could beat the Ravens... but could not compete with and was blown out by Patriots in the '10 decade other than 2011.
     
  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    How many time must I say Matchups.
    How come McVay has never beaten a Tomlin team, but has beaten everyone else.
    Why has Vrabel not ever beaten Tomlin head to head??
    Why couldn't Cam Newton ever beat us, but beat Belichick all the time. Matchups.
     
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  3. MojoUW

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    Brady Pats vs Ravens post-season and regular season: 9-4
    Brady Pats vs Steelers post-season and regular season: 12-4

    Did not check box scores to see who was or was not in the line-up. Did not use 2000 season match-up with Ravens because I do not think Brady played. Either way Ravens lost.
     
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  4. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Luck.. not Andrew, had a lot to do with Newton, Vrabel and McVey. Same thing with Jake Plummer going 3-0 vs Belichick/Brady.
     
  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Luck maybe once , not every time. Ok it was luck that the Steelers couldn't beat the Pats in the playoffs. It's funny its luck when You want it to be.
     
  6. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    No, Belichick had the Steelers' number.... so did Brady. It was game plan more than luck. A recurring trend over time is evident in the stats. That ain't luck.
     
  7. Steelersfan43

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    In the 2007 to 2012 period,Brady had several awful game against the ravens,even when the game was in foxboro like in the playoffs in 2009,2011(despite the win) and 2012.Even in 2007,when the patriots were 16-0 and the ravens had a pathetic 5-11 season and they had Kyle Boller as QB,the pats were very lucky to win that game.Brady had also a great game in 2014 against the ravens in the playoffs with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis gone
     
  8. S.T.D

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    And neither is what I mentioned. Matchups matter. Belichicks mainly man schemes are slowly being driven out of the NFL because of running Qbs. Nothing a running Qb loves to see then nobodies eyes on him except for a spy . That's why Belichick couldn't beat Cam Newton, and only beat Lamar Jackson once, and why we never lost to Cam, and have beaten Lamar more times than not. Matchups.
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The Pats face Newton only twice
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And Lost both times.
     
  11. HeinzMustard

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    Patriots lost to the Dolphins in the primes of their dynasties when Dolphins were horrible and didn't have a QB like Cam Newton. Explain that one.

    I'll explain it.... LUCK. No matchup issues there.
     
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  12. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Brady had a losing record in his career on the road in Miami!

    I remember in 2004,when the pats were 12-1 losing against the 2-11 dolphins!
     
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  13. AFan

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    Not to keep 'bagging' on your posts. But Richardson is another guy who is waaaay younger than Pickett. Almost 4 yrs younger. When KFP was exactly the same age as Anthony Richardson is today, he was literally walking out on the draft stage in Vegas to shake Franco's hand and to get his Steeler jersey. I don't think Richardson will improve either, but he's basically the same age as a newly drafted QB.
     
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  14. S.T.D

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    Clearly like a lot of people, to you evidence doesn't matter, only what You chose to believe , dang if it's actually correct, or not. LoL. 21 -26 is Miami record against Belichick. Most of the wins are at home , early in the year in the heat. With different HCs. So could a northeastern team possibly have a bad matchup against a hot muggy southern team early in the year when it's still hits 100 in the south. Could that be called a bad matchup???:shrug:
     
  15. MojoUW

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    That is a great deal of subjective analysis.

    All I was attempting to do was to verify whether the Ravens had more success or not against the Pats in the Brady era. By winning percentage, which I realize is painting with a REALLY broad brush, it is a one game difference between the Ravens and Steelers.

    If you want to look at pass yards, or match-ups, or other things...then we could.

    But in terms of just wins and losses, it is one game.
     
  16. HeinzMustard

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    Many of those Dolphins home game wins happened in November and December... and yeah it can get warm in those months in southern Florida, but not 100 damn degrees. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    Short term pain for long term gain.

    It’s not that people are ok with a losing season, its that it will help them restock the team with superior talent (if they draft well) and finally move forward. To be clear I think the team has talent but it’s missing the top end talent that puts teams over the top. Sure you can get lucky like they did with TJ but imagine a whole draft that has them selecting near the top 10.

    And if they are going to have a losing season I prefer it happen while they have Weidl, don’t know how much longer they will have his services.

    But just getting to the playoffs and getting shellacked in the first rd year after year just keeps things stagnate. Now if you are talking making the playoffs and making a run and actually playing competitive football but still falling short of the ultimate goal, then of course I’d take that because that means you have a team that can compete but we haven’t getting that.
     
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