Steelers drama from former players

forgotten1 · Feb 18, 2026 at 4:42 PM

feltdeez said: ↑

I don’t remember asking 3 times but I think given the convo it was warranted.

Some people put dogs above people and to me its always been odd. When a sexual assault accusation comes up in sports fans of the person are quick to demonize the victim, quick to forgive the athletes behavior.

and I’m not defending Vick’s behavior but the man paid a debt and looks like he turned his life around but some will never forgive him.

yet, with Ben they go on the attack when people refuse to forgive or forget his behavior.
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I didn't think you did and I wasn't sure if I had missed something. Some misinterpretation perhaps

remember when people were fighting to keep dog tracks open?

santeesteel · Feb 18, 2026 at 5:26 PM

S.T.D said: ↑

I was going to say, I've lived all over the North, and South of Middle America, and East America, and I've seen way more homeless up North than the south. I've never been farther west than Flagstaff Arizona though, so I can't speak of anything west
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I avoid L.A. like the plague so, I haven't seen their homeless problem first hand. I've seen the homeless here in San Diego, Portland, Seattle and, played a game my stepson calls "guess the species of the feces" when he lived in downtown San Francisco.

Blast Furnace · Feb 18, 2026 at 6:09 PM

feltdeez said: ↑

I don’t remember asking 3 times but I think given the convo it was warranted.
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How does that pertain to the conversation? Do you really think only white people lose their **** about dogs being hurt? I assure you every dog owner of every walk of life cares.

feltdeez said: ↑

Some people put dogs above people and to me its always been odd. When a sexual assault accusation comes up in sports fans of the person are quick to demonize the victim, quick to forgive the athletes behavior.
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You make bizarre leaps with your assumptions. Because people have empathy for dogs they can’t have empathy for anything else. What you cant wrap your head around is I dont believe the girl was raped. The funny thing is you make your argument like its from a position of strength and Ben was charged, he wasn’t and sorry, no I dont believe a dumb jock like Ben would duck a rape charge just because he is the QB of of Pittsburgh Steelers. His star power wasnt that great.

Furthermore you have to believe that his teammates were in on it and helped Ben rape her or that he would lead them into an accomplice charge. Your problem is you are a 100% believe women guy and leave no room for anything else. I lost that naive belief whenI had an argument with RayD from here when a woman accused the Talking Dead host of abuse and proved to be false. I was you in that argument. That changed the way I viewed that whole mantra.

feltdeez said: ↑

and I’m not defending Vick’s behavior but the man paid a debt and looks like he turned his life around but some will never forgive him.
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If Ben did a stretch for rape I wouldnt forgive him when he got out either. Wtf. I don’t care that Vick paid his debt, doesnt erase the things he did.

forgotten1 · Feb 18, 2026 at 6:22 PM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

How does that pertain to the conversation? Do you really think only white people lose their **** about dogs being hurt? I assure you every dog owner of every walk of life cares.

You make bizarre leaps with your assumptions. Because people have empathy for dogs they can’t have empathy for anything else. What you cant wrap your head around is I dont believe the girl was raped. The funny thing is you make your argument like its from a position of strength and Ben was charged, he wasn’t and sorry, no I dont believe a dumb jock like Ben would duck a rape charge just because he is the QB of of Pittsburgh Steelers. His star power wasnt that great.

Furthermore you have to believe that his teammates were in on it and helped Ben rape her or that he would lead them into an accomplice charge. Your problem is you are a 100% believe women guy and leave no room for anything else. I lost that naive belief whenI had an argument with RayD from here when a woman accused the Talking Dead host of abuse and proved to be false. I was you in that argument. That changed the way I viewed that whole mantra.

If Ben did a stretch for rape I wouldnt forgive him when he got out either. Wtf. I don’t care that Vick paid his debt, doesnt erase the things he did.
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Are you tickled pink?

other than that

GO STEELERS

S.T.D · Feb 18, 2026 at 7:38 PM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

How does that pertain to the conversation? Do you really think only white people lose their **** about dogs being hurt? I assure you every dog owner of every walk of life cares.

You make bizarre leaps with your assumptions. Because people have empathy for dogs they can’t have empathy for anything else. What you cant wrap your head around is I dont believe the girl was raped. The funny thing is you make your argument like its from a position of strength and Ben was charged, he wasn’t and sorry, no I dont believe a dumb jock like Ben would duck a rape charge just because he is the QB of of Pittsburgh Steelers. His star power wasnt that great.

Furthermore you have to believe that his teammates were in on it and helped Ben rape her or that he would lead them into an accomplice charge. Your problem is you are a 100% believe women guy and leave no room for anything else. I lost that naive belief whenI had an argument with RayD from here when a woman accused the Talking Dead host of abuse and proved to be false. I was you in that argument. That changed the way I viewed that whole mantra.

If Ben did a stretch for rape I wouldnt forgive him when he got out either. Wtf. I don’t care that Vick paid his debt, doesnt erase the things he did.
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I totally agree with everything you said......except the Vick part. I'm a owner of many animals, and if I actually caught Vick doing what he did, he probably would never have went to trial, and I would have instead, but......, but I do believe if You have paid your debt to society, did Your time, I need to at least give You the benefit of a doubt that you changed. Otherwise what's it all for???
Everything else you said I one million times agree with.

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