James Harrison doesn't think Tomlin is a hall of fame coach

So Switzer beats Tomlin in every catagory....better regular season winning percentage, better playoff winning percentage and better overall winning percentage and won the same amount of Super Bowls as Tomlin....1. But Switzer also has 3 college football National titles to his resume and he wont ever be allowed in the HOF but Tomlin will? Switzer doesnt belong and Tomlin doesnt belong but we all know they will vote for Tomlin to get in.

 

Belichick drafted and started him while Drew Bledsoe had just gotten an extension in 2001. Belichick gave Brady his first real shot. Brady could barely get a shot at Michigan for four years.

Any iconic coach had the greatest stars on their team.

 

I agree that all iconic coaches have greatest stars on their team, and qb is the most important. It is a matter of luck to a certain extent is my point. I know Tomlin will be voted in HOF as soon as he is eligible. However, he underperformed after Cowher’s players retired. There should have been more playoff wins and not losses to Jaguars and Tim Tebow. The defense was suspect. However, Tomlin was always able to motivate his team enough so he didn’t have a losing season. Having Cleveland and Cincinnati ( Marvin Lewis) in your division helped as that was automatic 3-4 wins

 

Tomlin is a HOF Coach. I'm glad we are moving on but credit where it is due.

 

Might have to stay alive longer then 5 years if he decides to come back to coaching.

I think once he gets a taste of retirement he won't return to the NFL.

 

Just realized me and Mike both called it quits at 53.

Big difference is he could take a few years off and come back to millions of dollars. As for me minimum wage.

 

Tomlin is not a Hall of Fame coach...






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That will do it. The Steelers lose 30-6 to the Texans. This is the 7th straight playoff loss for the franchise. For Mike Tomlin, that ties an NFL record for most consecutive NFL playoff losses in a row by a HC with Marvin Lewis.



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Mike Tomlin has the worst winning percentage in the playoffs among NFL head coaches, with a record of 8-12. He has not won a playoff game since the 2016 NFL playoffs, which ties him with Marvin Lewis for the longest postseason losing streak in NFL history.

 

Really? The coach who is 9th in wins overall in the history of the league and has 8 Afc North titles 2 superbowl appearances and 1 superbowl win, was hired to do other things besides win? Possibly the dumbest post I've seen yet, congratulations.

 

Mike Tomlin is a sure fire HOF coach, the playoff record thing is kinda bs when you look at alot of teams he got to the playoffs. Sure his playoff record could of been better if he hadnt made the playoffs with those teams but that too me doesnt scream great coaching.

 

He will make the HOF. I am 95% sure. Likely within 10 years of his eligibility.

But he won his first and only superbowl early with almost all of Bill Cowher players, a HOF DC and good OC who later went to become a heck of a coach. Neither of which he hired and few of the players, aside from Timmons, were opening day starters when the Steeler won their sixth superbowl... I think.

Essentially he was a cheerleader early, with the other fine coaches and players he did not hire or draft doing most of the work. He did very little to earn it. He lasted 19 years, thanks to the Rooneys.

Along the way, he held the record among HOF coaches for not making the playoffs 9 years in a row. In these 9 games he was embarrassed by some blow outs. He is 8-12 ( .400 ) in the playoffs. This is the lowest winning percentage , I think, in the hall of fame among pure coaches. I am not checking every man to confirm this.

His coaching tree is bare. Zero. None of his hires made the Hall. Considering he was the head coach for 19 years this is mystifying. I think he owes much of his success to Ben. Once he was past his prime ( say 35 ) Tomlin was plain average.

 

How is the no coaching tree thing dumb? You realize guys like McVay and Shanahan have assistants picked up left and right because they are brilliant coaches right? There is a reason nobody ever touched MT assistants.

 

He will likely make the HOF based on his regular season winning percentage and 1 SB Championship.

He is also one of the most overrated HCs of all time and I couldn’t be happier that he is gone.

 

Well if Tomlin only coached for 4 years he would beat out Switzer and the HOF judges a career. A 19 year career with a .628 win percentage and no losing seasons is far more impressive than 4 year career with .635 win percentage and 1 losing season.

 

Harrison said Tomlin will get in the Hof on his #s alone but he doesnt think he is a Hof coach.. now people are mad because Deebo voiced his opinion lol.
Deebo knows Tomlin better than any of us ever will. Maybe go watch the long podcast that was posted with a open mind and you might learn somthing u didnt know abt tomlin.
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J.H is right

 

I agree. He's definitely got some stats racked up. Good and bad. What gets him over the top and fitted is the social climate. Media loves him.

Set emotions and personal bias aside. When it comes time he's in.

I do wonder if he coaches elsewhere will "the standard be the standard"? Maybe he comes up with all new tomlinisms.

 

Agree with that! The beating of the chest near the end was foolish. Be professional because there will be a game the following week. ... in which you get embarrassed.

 

I think the bar for non-players to be in the HoF should be very, very, very high.

I don't think Tomlin should get it.

I don't think Cowher should have got in.

And every time I'm reminded that Joe ****ing Buck is in the NFL Hall of Fame, it reminds me that being in the HoF doesn't really mean much.

I'm still always going to love what Ward and Harrison did for us. Even though I don't think either will make it to the hall. Same is true for a guy like Muth, who's never even going to sniff the hall (unlike Ward and Harrison who are close but not good enough).

I think Cowher and Tomlin are essentially the same. So by that logic, he probably will get in. But it's worth remembering that Cowher only got in because they had a special class. And probably also because his employer is a massive reason why the NFL makes so much money.

If Bill went the way of Noll after he finished, I don't think he gets in.

But Fox was getting their "coach" into the Hall that year. And CBS probably wanted some of that action too.

Makes you wonder how much non-player inductions are about money. Apparently that's how you get those TV / movie type awards (Golden Globes, Oscars, etc.).

 

Harrison doesn't really seem to be the type to let things go.

 

Also, when would these people have fired Cowher?

Because they damn sure wouldn't have waited for year 14 after all the playoff disappointments (with some real crushing losses at home).

 

True?
But he’ll get the Gold Jacket.

It’s another Steeler in the HOF.

 

I do agree that people will hold the playoff record against him.

But I am a bit conflicted on this.

We certainly have a lot of playoff disappointments. But part of this is that we get into the playoffs a lot. Recently with teams that really have no business being there.

Would he have been a better coach if we didn't make the playoffs since the SB loss to GB (5-2)?

Or if we didn't make the playoffs since the AFCC loss to the Pats (8-6)?

Or if we didn't make the playoffs after Ben got hurt (8-7)?

I don't know the answer to this.

But I think being able to make it to the playoffs with bad teams might be a mark of being a good coach. But in this case, he's getting penalized for it.

Certainly he would have been a better coach if he could have beaten the Bills with Mason. Or the Rats with Wilson. Or if we could have made the playoffs and won with young Mason (or Duck). Or if he could have made the team competitive for a SB with Kenny (who's been outplayed by a QB3 on 4 different teams in 4 years).

And while it sucks that we lost so many times with Ben, a lot of that is on Ben too. He was a very high variance player. And he usually wasn't all that good in the first half. As he got older, he just wasn't good enough to recover from the big mistakes and the slow starts. Note: I think Ben is the best QB I will ever see play for our Steelers. I think he should be a 1st Ballot HOFer. But I worry that guys like King (who didn't even vote for Troy!) will try to keep him out on the first try because of Midgeville.

 

Belichick was arguably the GOAT coach and is HOF bound but even he couldn't pull off what Tomlin did when he lost his HOF franchise QB. In fact, it was downright ugly at the end.

Quote that is spot on;

"He had a few years with an iconic quarterback, and I can tell you, it’s easier to win when you’ve got that right. But in the years that they didn’t, he was still able to put competitive teams out there and teams that you wanted to watch." - T. Dungy

 

TRUE
so sad
JH little man mental midget


James, go beat up on a girl as you typically do

 

I agree with JH. His entire post season success was because of the unit that Cowher built. His post season failures were plenty evident. As great as TJ watt and Cam Heyward were during the regular season they were mostly no shows in the post season.