The Steelers have a serious safety problem

These guys get paid millions of dollars.

 

Doesn’t make them smarter

 

They be

 

Doesn’t that just eat your shorts

 

That’s not what I’m saying at all.

I’d like to see the Steelers win every game in a totally dominant blowout. But I realize that isn’t based in reality.

I yell at my television and complain every time they make a mistake or do something I disagree with.

The NFL is played at warp speed by flawed humans with no margin for error error.

Looking at similar “mistakes” made across the league helps me develop fan expectations based on real world outcomes.

Your mileage may vary.

 

Other teams fire coaches when they struggle to get it done for an extended period of time, but nobody thinks the Steelers should do that even though "everyone else does it", and then they get rid of the coach that keeps having that stuff happening on the field over and over again.

Many people make up whatever arguments they need to protect the coach or the organization, but they use the excuse that the roster sucks and either the players aren't very good or they're too dumb to complete the genius assignments on every play.

Some never want to admit that if players consistently blow assignments, those players shouldn't be on the field. That is the coach's responsibility. When Tomlin doesn't put Roman Wilson on the field because he's "dumb" or not very good, they say Tomlin is doing the right thing. When players get on the field even though they keep screwing up..... they say it's on the player. It doesn't work both ways.

Accountability needs to be assigned for deficiencies in coaching as well. We can't pretend that the coaches aren't responsible for how well players know their assignments and how they carry out those assignments.

This isn't me screaming fire Mike Tomlin. It is me just saying that people need to acknowledge that coaches make mistakes in judgement. Coaches should be evaluated on those mistakes and held accountable just like the players are called out. Everyone needs to make fair judgements on players and coaches. It's not about picking sides.

 

I think this was aimed at me. That’s cool.

If so, it really misses my entire point.

I think the understanding of the types and amounts of similar mistakes that happen to every team every week across the league is instrumental to defining performance evaluation metrics for players and coaches that are grounded in comparable situations backed by empirical data. Kinda of using a somewhat dispassionate “scientific method” point of view.

I further think that most folks commenting on internet message boards and forums are taking a passionate fan point of view to determine their performance benchmarks. That’s the part I push back against.

Since I’ve been on the internet (mid 1990s) the Steelers internet has railed against Lbers on WRs. Many argue it is specifically a Steelers issue. I lost count at 4 TDs across wildcard weekend where it was a LBer in primary coverage of a WR. That’s the type of thing I’m talking about.

Bolt that together with the idea that good process can still provide undesired results. In other words, you can do everything correctly and still not get the hoped for outcome. I believe that if you respond solely to the results, you can dig the hole deeper instead of climbing out.

You are one of the only people I’ve ever seen layout specific constructive critique that is based on facts and grounded. That’s incredible and leads to good conversation.

Most just want everyone to coach more gooder so winning. That’s unrealistic and not interesting. I can turn Cowherd or Firt Take on for that nonsense.

 

I understand your frustration. You are correct, many people just want a lynching without truly identifying and evaluating the why and the how. I try not to do that, and I thank you for noticing.

The sad part about this is that I'm not advocating for Tomlin's firing here. I'm questioning your position that Sirianni isn't a good coach. There is simply no evidence to show that he isn't a good coach as long as he keeps winning at a ridiculous rate and going to Super Bowls.

You keep listing that bad stuff happens on every team, and I agree. Where you lose me in particular is that when that stuff happens over and over again everywhere else, coaches lose their jobs. That's the part you simply aren't seeing. We will see what Sirianni does when things go sideways....maybe. He hasn't had a 19-year career so you are only seeing the winning and are questioning why he is getting so much credit.

I guess the other question becomes if the Eagles with the best front office and GM in football by your position....and they fire Sirianni....will the Eagles be right for doing it because Sirianni was not going to more Super Bowls? Or will they be wrong for not showing the patience the Steelers have shown with Mike Tomlin?

These decisions aren't easy.

 

And often when those coaches lose their jobs the situation does not improve.

Further making mistakes is not the issue. Eliminating mistakes is an unattainable goal.

Here’s the thing, over the course of a season I don’t think the Steelers make any more mistakes than the other NFL teams. Even the ones winning more games. I honestly don’t.

 

haha. Not a Tomlin forte is it?

 

You seem to have missed the point by a considerable margin.

 

Players must be getting dumber because I don't recall LeBeau's defense with repeated gaffes like we see this season.

 

I do. Obviously somewhat less because they were better. But it isn’t like they never blew a coverage.

Also dudes usually had to site 1-3 years before they even saw the field. Numerous former players have spoken about how it was a hard defense to learn.

Also possible probable that it’s all gotten worse. People have in every other aspect of life.