Wow! James Harrison ignited a firestorm on his FB page!

We take the simple approach. He went looking to be a hero, got his ass beat and shot because he thought he was going to get killed.

Let's be honest, that's what happened. Throw he rest of the race crap out the window. We don't care about that.

Also, I've been in the same situation only it was the police that came on me. (multiple times as a teen) I had thought it was someone following me until the lights came on. Let me tell you the fight or flight instinct was in full effect and all I was doing was going home with a pizza from work! Apparently, cutting through a vacant sandlot with a pizza box is suspicious activity.

 

That's the point. It's obious that at the point he was getting his ass kicked he was in fear for his life and became justified with the shooting. No one knows who actually started the fight, but Zimmerman. That right there is reasonable doubt. Hell, any one of us would have done the same damn thing in that situation! The first thing you're taught about carryiing is not to put yourself in a situation where you'd need it.

But, that's Harrison's point. Should he have commented on it knowing it would cause hate and discontent?

It is his right to comment, but some could see that as encouraging violence.

 

But yes, didn't know the race thing was going to be blown up in here as I just posted the comment not anything regarding race.

I'm guessing this thread will be locked soon as emotions run high on this issue.

 

Im with you 100% here.
Throw all of the other fluff and slanderous crap out of the window.
Zimmerman was a wannabe cop who provoked Trayvon by following him even though he was told not to. Trayvon, wether he doubled back or not, reacted in a reasonable manner. He was a scared teenager (IDC if he was a pot smoking gang banger, not important here) who reacted in a way that is perfectly justified by someone who is threatened. He proceeded to beat Zimms ass and paid for it with his life. Was Zimm scared for his life? I guess, but thats what you get when you play vigilante cop. Those are the consequences and you must suffer them. Vigilanteism is illegal in this country for good reason. And Zimm should have been held responsible for his actions. Murder? No. Manslaughter? Yes.

And that is the cut and dry version of it. No fluff, crap, or media hype.

Oh yeah and for the record, Im white.

 

It has nothing to due with guilt or innocence.

He was not found innocent of killing the kid. He was found not guilty of the charges due to the circumstances. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

There's still someone dead for no reason other than macho bravado on both parties!

There's a certain way most military members look at things and most see it for what it is. Shouldn't have even come to the situation is it. It did and the system had to do it's part.

 

no you're not

for years I thought you were Louis Lipps

 

Strummer is right about the fact that it was not a cop that told him to not follow him. It was the operator. Also the reason that he said these punks always get away with it was because in the last 18 months before that they had multiple break ins in that community. Also he didn't mention that he was black until the 911 operator asked what color he was. Also if he felt like his life was in danger then BY THE WAY THE LAW WAS WRITTEN he was allowed to use deadly force and therefore the jury came to the only conclusion they could come to UNDER THE LAW. Also it should be pointed out that he was found "not guilty" which under the law is a different term than "innocent" which is what they could have found him. In legal terms "not guilty" is a way for the jury to say the state didn't TOTALLY make the case that they tried to. "Innocent" would be to say that he did absolutely nothing wrong. It's crazy I know and takes almost a rocket scientist to understand. There's lots of laws that I flat out do not understand.

 

I wouldn't say that he was a vigilante though because he was actually appointed by the people of the neighborhood as a watchmen. That's why he was the one that called the cops.

 

Harrison may be blowing off steam, after all NBC is doing its best to fan the flames. However, who here doesn't believe that if Harrison were still wearing the black and gold, Goodell would be interested in his comments. That is, interested in the form of a suspension for threatening.

:goodell::bsux:

 

Yeah, Liz is confusing me a bit.

Now Louis Lipps? What did I miss now?

 

Was it this pic? Not sure if I shared it before

 

Here's something REALLY crazy I saw the other day. A burglar broke in to a house where the owner was home and packing heat. The owner got the upper hand on the burglar and the burglar shot and killed the owner and now the burglar is claiming "self defense" because of the "stand your ground" law that Zimmerman used and apparently that law exists in SC as well. The judge is actually considering whether it's admissible. That is OBVIOUSLY not what this law was made for and if that happens it will be an absolute travesty! If you break in to my house you surrender your rights in that very moment.

 

The people of that neighborhood had to feel like they were under seige from all of the break-ins.

http://the-american-journal.com/zimmerman-neighbors-fear-black-youth/

Why do I think that if it had been a white teenager walking through the ghetto and was killed, folks would be saying that they should have known better than to go there? There's so many double standards in this country and I don't think things will ever get better untill we can get past all of that.

 

This seems to be something that's getting pushed to the side in all of this. When you live in a neighborhood that's been susceptible to break-ins it's likely that tensions were running high and that people felt threatened. Have any of you ever been the victim of a break-in? I own the house next door and rent it out. Our neighbor had his outbuilding broken into and had some tools stolen. I'm going to tell you, for a long time after that I had this fear that my home would be next. We made sure that all of our outbuildings were secure and of course Mr. Smith and his associate, Mr. Wesson, are also always close by. But I know other people who have had their homes broken into and they feel like they've been violated and are on edge for a very long time afterward. If Zimmerman's neighborhood had been repeatedly hit by a bunch of hoodlums you can't blame them for being on edge. As it turned out, it appeared that Trayvon Martin had possibly been involved in the ill-gotten gain business himself judging from all of the jewelry he had photographed and that they had found on his cell phone. Unless you believe that he was walking along and just found it one day. I question Zimmerman's judgement, but believe wholeheartedly that the jury rendered the correct verdict.

 

NBC needs to stop with the race baiting and flame fanning and start worrying about that big check they are gonna have to write old George after his lawyers get done with them. I guess they'll look to obama to save them on this one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/

 

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...for-trayvon-during-racially-motivated-attack/

how about this one. hey Obama, why no sound off about this? where is all the outrage about this? where's the justice indeed.

 

Maybe because this guy doesn't look like he could be Obama's son?

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Why would any human being that is a teenage(s) pick on an 87 yr. old man?

Let's straighten this country out!!!!!

 

Did you guys see that vid a couple of weeks ago where the guy invaded an elderly woman that was babysitting and beat her almost to death and didn't know that he was on camera the whole time?

 

Yep. Haven't heard too much about it in the mainstream media. That video was repulsive and infuriating. It wasn't an elderly woman though. It was the child's mother.

 

James, some redneck sounding Doctor on line #1; wants to know if you’d like to get a free sample of their new “nosler ballistic tip” acupuncture treatment.

 

Oh I thought I read that she was older and was babysitting. I know that guy had just gotten out of jail.

 

this link sure got yanked pretty quick. imagine that.