Two-year extension for Jaylen Warren

The best argument you can come up with for why they would have started Harris every game and given him more snaps and touches is that Harris had been a first-round pick four years earlier with a different general manager. Never mind that the team had given up on the quarterback they took in the first round after only two seasons. It's a terrible argument. The goal is to win. To do that, you put your best players on the field as often as possible. The Steelers did that the last three seasons.

Maybe the coaches are screwing up. Maybe that is why Warren didn't get the ball on that last drive Sunday. Or maybe they realize he simply doesn't hold up as well to the heavy workload, so they are fine going with Gainwell, who has also been very productive.

 

Yet he was among the league leaders in runs of over 20 yards last season with nine. Even after yesterday's game, Warren has only five.

 

He has, but he's not a No. 1 running back. That is why it is so frustrating that the Steelers don't trust Warren to be one with the game on the line. If they did, he would have been the one with the ball on first and second down before Boswell's miss. Gainwell made a terrible cut on the first-down run. That's something Warren usually does better. The cut-back was there.

 

Let's see Warren do it against a strong defense, as Harris did a couple of times in late-season victories over the Ravens. He also had 188 yards in a game as a rookie.

 

Yup. Some folks wanted to ignore the statistics when Warren wasn't on pace to gain 1,000 yards, when he had the same average per carry as Harris last year. Now one great game against a broken defense and suddenly the statistics matter.

 

You think a sample size of one game ends a debate? That's funny.

Also, the game is irrelevant to most of the question of who was the better back last year.

 

I don’t think either of them are true #1 backs. Gainwell has been good as a receiving option and on the ground in the Redzone. I was expecting a bit part player when they signed him so his production is a pleasant surprise.

I think teams will look at his receiving work and that’s what will get him paid rather than what he is doing on the ground. Every team can use a reliable receiving back regardless of scheme

 

% of Run Atts >20yds*:

2024 - N Harris: 7th in the NFL (3%)
2025 - J Warren: 7th in the NFL (3%)

% of Run Atts >30yds*:

2024 - N Harris: 32nd in the NFL (0.8%)
2025 - J Warren: 5th in the NFL (2%)

*RBs with 100 min. atts

 

We keep trying to use facts to convince them.

But they willfully ignore all the evidence that shows the obvious thing. It's because of the volume of carries.

Imagine if we had Najee in a year like this where the O can't give him big volume.

It would be brutal.

Not only would the D be bad at getting off the field. The O would be worse staying on it (success rate running probably down 8% or so).

He was a consistent contributor. But not good enough to retain at the guarantees required for the 5th year option.

We haven't drafted anyone worthy of those guarantees since TJ. But it looks like TF might be a keeper.

 

You have to look at the structure, not just the money.

This is why they didn't option Najee (guaranteed salary 2 years out).

And why they extended Warren. He's easily cutable because of the structure.

 

Felts favorite recent players are Kenny and Najee.

He seems to like punts.

 

Is that sign language for “run along”

Seems very useful

 

Najee did not get a second contract

That is a bust for a first round pick

Ditto The Coward

Facts that can’t be disputed

Although at least one will

 

we were at Planet Steelers. The owner let that site collapse. A few others are here as well.

 

I have to remind myself not to open this thread again.

 

UNTIL someone responds to your post
whoops

 

I also liked Pickens and wanted to trade Watt instead of paying him big money.

I’ve always rooted for our young players because I think old vets aren’t the best way to build a team.

Aaron Rodgers may get us over the hump
of playoff losses but we still have work to do.

I just want to remind folks of a few things:

After Warrens great game he has a whopping 830 yards.

We are 9-6.

At most we can win one more game than our best record with Kenny and Najee who had Matt Canada as OC.

oh, and DK is suspended for the last 2 games of the regular season.

So I’m not sure why folks are acting like its slam dunk time when we haven’t accomplished any goals yet that would call this a successful season.

But great game by Warren. The first of this year but it was definitely nice to get a must win vs Detroit.

 

Planet Steelers.

I think a lot of us were there sine something like 2008. Migrated there after the Trib board closed. Some of us were there for a pretty long time too.

But the Planet essentially died. Loads like a website from the 90s. Can't even write paragraphs anymore. I think the owner of the site gave up. Probably losing money on it. Or just stopped caring. He hadn't posted there for a very long time.

It is funny that many of the same discussions were happening pretty close to verbatim over there. Evidence of the simulation?