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The Steelers could have been contenders in 2025

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Formerscribe, Dec 1, 2025 at 12:00 PM.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That scrub was stuck on special teams I don't think he ever played in a game :lolol:
     
  2. biggbunch68

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    And? was he never in the locker room or meeting gs as well?
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not worried about what some practice squad player has to say about what the defense is supposed to be :eek:.
     
  4. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    I have to give you credit. You're the lone Tomlin defender left on this site, the others have abandoned ship and jumped overboard.
     
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  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    It has nothing to do with defending Tomlin thanks for playing :rolleyes:.
     
  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    When evaluating if someone can be a valid source of information, you should start by asking two questions. Do they have access to the relevant information? What biases might they have that would affect how they share that information?

    Yes, he was part of the team long enough to have access to that information, but it is hard to trust that he isn't being guided by his biases rather than reality. They never let him play much, then cut him loose, so I doubt he has many warm and fuzzy feelings toward Tomlin or the front office.
     
  7. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Do I still get my participation trophy for playing?
     
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  8. forgotten1

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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Who are you defending than because your M.O. is to dismiss anything negative any former player and coach says. Pretending these problems dont exist doesnt make them go away.
     
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  12. First and goal

    First and goal Well-Known Member

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    By this logic, the only people who we can take feedback from are current players on the 53 man roster. No reporters, no posters, no observers, no other PS members. Whatever his role was, this is a guy who has been inside the locker room, and the locker room of other teams (Chargers, LSU, Texas Tech). He may be wrong, he may be lying, but he is providing an insider's view, and maybe a scrub player has a broader perspective than a star player.
     
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  13. First and goal

    First and goal Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about that. A bias for a guy like this might be "they can't evaluate talent" or "they rely too much on starters and don't give the depth players more chances". Those biases will explain why he never got a fair chance in his mind.

    What he said is a very direct accusation and doesn't really affect his former position on the team and why they never gave him more of an opportunity - which in his mind he may have deserved.

    This attacks the entire team, not just the coaches who didn't give him a shot.
     
  14. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I was excited at the start of the season.

    Now I sometimes forget the game is even on.
     
  15. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The entire comment is an attack on the coaches. If there are fractures within the team, that is at least partially the fault of the coaching staff. My point is that he could easily be very bitter about his time in Pittsburgh, which means it would be wise to take anything he says about the Steelers with a grain of salt. That doesn't mean he is definitely wrong. He could be reflecting things perfectly.
     
  16. MojoUW

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    Fehoko was with the team for portions of 2023, 2024, and 2025. That means he is speaking about someone from roughly the 2021-2025 draft classes: https://www.drafthistory.com/teams/steelers.html

    There is ONE name that stands out on that list.

    Other than that, he is revealing that fan favorites like Herbig or Zach Frazier are toxic.
     
  17. ALL D

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    Bottom line is half the games are getting stinky to watch. That's not good for business.
     
  18. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Too bad you chose to make the false equivalency here. I was comparing what Tomlin knows to what Pickens knows. If you think that you as a fan know better than Tomlin, how can you say fans wouldn't know better than Pickens?

    I don't expect you to concede anything because that isn't what you do, but you clearly missed the logic of my point when I first made it.

    The same offensive coordinator hasn't run the offense that same way throughout his career. You missed that, too. Also competent coaches can adapt their systems to their team's talent. When you have a pair of stud receivers and you don't have a Derrick Henry at running back, you put more of the focus on those stud receivers. It's not that complicated.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Pot meet kettle.

    @Mashburn@Mashburn is scribe talking out his ass here?

    As for the rest, I didnt miss anything, you just dont get it. Not surprised.
     

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