Political Correctness gone WILD!

I heard today that 10 congressmen have sent a letter to Dan Snyder asking him to change the name of the Redskins to something that's not offensive. I know there has been talk of this in the past but for elected officials to seriously ask him to consider doing something like this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Do you guys think there's any chance he will actually do it? I mean I at first thought there's no way but then I remembered this is the genius that gave Haynesworth a $150 million contract. So I guess anything is possible but if I were a huge Skins fan I would be threatening to NEVER go to another game or buy another thread of merch if he went through with this insanity. Just wanted to get your guys opinions on this. Surely NO one can support this. Well maybe... LOL.

 

i don't see it changing anytime soon......... this has been going on as long as I can remember (and i'm no spring chicken!!!!).. in fact, I believe the Atlanta braves have been dealing with it even longer......... believe me when I say the redskins name will still be in place long after these particular congressmen have been voted out of office.

 

I think the government should worry about more important stuff like the job industry, the housing industry, corruption, etc.

just sayin'.

 

But the gvt has given many reparations in regard to all that. I mean they literally ARE Indians right? I mean that if someone says I'm half Cherokee and you say "Cherokee what?" they would then say "indian" right? So do they mind being called indians or do they just not like being called "Redskins"? Where does the term actually come from? There is also a chew called "Red Man" which has an indian on it. I wonder if they've ever targeted that company or if they find that offensive? How many teams can you think of that are named after indians? I can think of the Cleveland Indians, the Braves, the Jayhawks, just off the top of my head. I wonder if indians have actually petitioned these congressmen or if they've just taken it upon themselves to solve all the world's "problems". LOL. But I can certainly see what you are saying about the n word though.

 

He should change it. It is derogatory. Its wrong and this has nothing to do with political correctness era. Its wrong plain and simple.

They would root for the team of D.C. no matter what it is called. Give me a break. Its not like they will move the team in Mayflower trucks over night to Indy.

Tell me how "Redskins" is any different than this:

 

While I get your point, and agree that I am lucky I`m on the beneficial side of this equation.
I have a great deal of sympathy for the Native Americans, who still want to keep their culture alive, and have a VERY hard time doing it, on the reservations, with their numbers severley thinned...
For exactly the reasons you pointed out, I think they have bigger grievances, and it seems to be a small but vocal minority among them, who even really give a ... Ahem... I mean, CARE about an "insulting" sports team`s name, compared to the real issues they face...
Not to be insensitive. That`s just how I see it.
Living close to Cleveland, I have heard the debate about "Chief Wahoo", and the "Indians", all my life, and, like I said, it only seems to be a few "extremists"(pardon the choice of words, I guess their people would have been the "insurgents", pre-revolutionary war days), who really care about what our sports teams call themselves.
For the most part, the majority of what is left of the Native American population has bigger things to care about...
Just sayin...
At least we let them have their casinos... (Sorry, that`s just wrong.) I should be ashamed of myself. "Lord, I apologize,that ain`t right, and God bless all them starvin pygmies in Africa"...

 

I think San Franciso would really be named after a different group. I actually find stereotypes to be HILARIOUS. I think the Titans should be called the "Rednecks" really. There was a scene on The Office once where Jim accidentally caused everyone to be locked in and they were waiting on the black security guard to come and get them out and then the cleaning crew showed up and Jim said to the mexican named Oscar "hey the cleaning crew is here. Oscar ask them to let us out." and Oscar says "why do you just ASSUME they speak only spanish" and then he asks them in english and they stare blankly. He then asks them in spanish and they do it immediately and it's hilarious. I don't think the Redskins is MEANT to be derogatory and I would really love to see a poll among their people seeing what they think of it. Those hats are awesome though. LOL.

 

Remember that Tim McGraw song "indian outlaw"? There were a few people that found that offensive because it perpetuated stereotypes. It really is interesting though how people don't even really think about them. Actually it was a president from my state that sent them on the "Trail of Tears" and I've read that some of the soldiers that he sent to enforce the move were actually very disturbed and haunted for life by the treatment inflicted on them. Andrew Jackson had a pretty hardcore vendetta against them. I just don't think any offense is intended by the name and given the fact that it has existed for so long I just don't think it's that big of a deal and congressmen should really find something better to do than being the "PC Police". A dj on ESPN Radio was saying that he honestly thinks that a name like "hurricanes" could never be used for a new team because of Katrina and Sandy and people are just sorta sensitive about that kinda stuff now. It's like in South Carolina when they wanted the Confederate Flag taken down because they thought it represented slavery but really that's not at all what it was actually about but it was sorta guilt by association ya know? Ole Miss is still represented by a Confederate Flag right?

 

Yep...
"Heritage, not hate"...
But there are MANY who would disagree with that statement, and not understand that you truly believe that...

 

Yeah for me when I see that flag I just think that it sorta represents "standing up to the man". I'm actually sort of a Civil War buff I guess you'd say and read a lot about it because I like that period of history. Actually a month or so ago I went to a museum that had an exhibit of a Confederate Flag that was carried during Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg. It was pretty cool. I could understand why people would think it means something different though. Even after 150 years most people don't even know why the Civil War was fought. It's a huge misconception to say that it was fought over slavery because that's really only telling the northern side of the story. The southerners thought they were fighting to preserve state's rights. There's actually a video on youtube of a Confederate soldier who was one of the oldest living veterans who actually got to testify before congress in the late 40's about why the war was fought and he flat out says that it was about state's rights from his perspective. They felt that the north was too politically dominant and was sorta bullying them and they considered the north to be aggressors. Actually the Confederate Flag was not the "Official" flag of the confederacy. I read a book a few months ago that went in to the history of the flag. I'm a huge dork. I know. LOL.

 

There was a survey done a while ago (I posted a link in another thread but I'm too lazy to go look for it) that showed that a majority of Native Americans don't care about the name.

 

Yeah I actually looked in to it last night and in 2004 there was a poll taken and like 91% of them said they were fine with it. Here it is http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycen...munication/naes/2004_03_redskins_09-24_pr.pdf

 

But do they consider the word "indian" to be an insult? The thing I noticed in that study is that the more educated ones thought it offensive but the less educated ones didn't. I would almost figure that either that comes from going to universities where political correctness runs amok or maybe they've studied their history more in depth and feel they've been really given the short end of the stick. I wonder if the reason that they don't really get noticed more is because slavery was such an issue and came after their horrible treatment and people have basically forgotten about it. On a side note though there have been other polls taken that show the same overwhelming support for the name.

 

Well that's pretty much true because when something is found "offensive" it is generally the people in the minority that wind up getting something changed. Like the way that most people say "Merry Christmas" but there are a few who don't like it and they complain and people cave to them. A couple of years ago on Desperate Housewives a guy was going to have to get an operation and he wanted to be sure he had a good dr so he said "I don't want some guy that got their degree from the Phillipines working on me" and a couple of days later a spokesmen for a group of people from the Phillipines came out demanding an apology and said he would only accept their apology if they removed the line from all future dvd releases! I think if I were an indian I would want them to change the name because they've sucked so bad for so long and they're making them all look like losers. LOL.

 

Well in the poll it said the college ones WERE offended by it. The reason they have tribes is because the gvt settled with them and gave them the land and they have certain sovereignty on their property. But they can't overrule federal law such as murder and things like that. There's actually a reservation in Cherokee NC about and hour and a half from here and I used to get to go there when I was little because I thought it was pretty fun. The old indians would come out there and do shows and play with the kids and stuff and it was pretty cool then. I went through there about 10 years ago and I was like "man this place is so little and lame but when I was little I thought it was awesome" LOL. Basically the reason they got sent out west was because Andrew Jackson believed in what's called "manifest destiny" which meant that he thought America should completely overtake the land all the way through Mexico. Jefferson Davis also thought this and to make that happen you had to move people that weren't willing to conform to your system of gvt. That's what caused the Trail of Tears. My wife's cousin is a history teacher and me and him debate history all the time and he was saying that he thought Andrew Jackson was the best president ever and that he was a good man and I said "tell that to the indians" and another history teacher that we are friends with was in on the discussion to and he was like "YEAH REALLY"! LOL.

 

He just thinks you can't sum up Andrew Jackson by that statement and I was like "dude he's like an early version of Fidel Castro" but as it is with most people who have pet politicians there is no convincing them otherwise. I mean he would never convince me that my two favorite presidents weren't great either. Lincoln is one and I might get in trouble if I say the other one but I was wearing a shirt with his face on it just today and someone said "I can't believe you would wear that shirt here at UPS" and I said " I can't believe you WOULDN'T!" but as it turns out he actually likes the guy too and said it was just disrespecting him to bring him in to UPS. LOL.

 

Ok. I will. Just to make it fun though you should send me a pm with your best guess. LOL. Also I bet I know who you think it was too and it's probably not who you think.

 

And I catch **** here for bashing Obama??????Go figure!!!