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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Bubbahotep, Oct 9, 2025 at 6:13 AM.

  1. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Just watched the all-22s focused on McCormick and man he still has some real issues with technique. He is very inconsistent with hand placement, footwork, and critically, his pad level is often too high. He frequently gets turned at the POA giving up his gap.

    I am thinking the Steelers are in the market for a couple of guards in the next draft. I think McCormick can be an OK backup but he's not what they are looking for as a starter. Steelers need a road grader at the position and that ain't him.
     
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  2. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Seems like we're going to follow the Philly model here where we pay the OT, C, OT and go cheap on guards. So I think you're right that we'll probably try to draft guys here with mid round picks. Like all the 3rds we have.

    But I'm mostly just hoping that we don't feel like we need to draft a LT early again this draft.
     
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  3. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    I think McCormick is our strongest player on the line, and our most athletic lineman. Because he is .

    I disagree. He is a keeper. By year #3, he could make the pro bowl. He need to clean up his technique a bit. Remember he came form a small school as is in year #2 of the NFL.

    https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/mason-mccormick/78326
     
  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Good old PFF to the rescue...

    :puking::puking 4::nono:
     
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  5. Busman

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    People use PFF. I say PFFFFT to PFF:facepalm: . Not a reliable source I would ever use.
     
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  6. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    Technique issues are more an indictment on the coaching rather than the player........ no amount of high rd draftees are going to change the teaching that they receive
     
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    losing scharping didn't help. we have depth at every position but the O-line. seumalo in his last year also. we will see a guard i'm pretty sure in the draft but it may be the left side. not real thrilled with any of our O-linemen at this point. we don't have much behind them either. we keep adding LB'ers though. that's MT's baby the defense, he thinks they cure all. the offense gets a sprinkle here and there. :cool:
     
  8. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you really don’t understand who signs players
     
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  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    oh but i do and who requests players. :cool:
     
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    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  11. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    I agree with PFF ratings about 75% of the time. They often match the best and worst players in the NFL with accuracy and general agreement. Not that I swear by them, but there is no other 3rd party rating system in the class. They have a staff of people doing it and an interesting rating system for grades.

    Bubba is foolish to suggest McCormick is backup material. Nope. He is a starter and one of the better guards in the NFL. His arrow is upward.
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Have You ever looked into the that staff that gives those grades??
     
  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    Agreed

    Yet some posters want to dismiss the entire body of work if 1) They find one stat they can dispute or 2) It does not fit their agenda

    May as well ignore all weather forecasters
     
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  14. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    The coaching and scheme can make less talent above average, can be the opposite for very talented men. Have no idea where McCormick will lane, but he is only in his secont year, on with 2 guys on his side in their 2nd year, think better coaching make help a bit? lol
     
  15. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    I have an easier time with PFF on its offensive grades than their defensive grades, especially LB's and Secondary. Its hard to tell what someone's job is on a play and they can incorrectly call bad plays for a player that was simply doing his job. DL and Edge are easier to grade because... well, you beat your guy or you don't. Offensively there isn't as much disparity of what someone's job is, so I find those numbers to be a bit better.

    Its an interesting way of grading (and they likely prioritize things that football people may not). They aren't to swear by, but they're okay. I definitely put a small amount of stock into the numbers/rankings.
     
  16. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    I honestly thought that his game against the Vikings was his best yet of the season. Much like Broderick Jones, Mason McCormick had a great game. Others would agree.


    That all said, as a whole, Mason has been underwhelming thus far. The entire Offensive Line though doubly so. However, need I remind everyone that, due to both youth and inexperience, this Offensive Line was going to take time to gel.


    Me and @mac daddyo@mac daddyo said this all Offseason. Their outing against the Vikings was a good step in the right direction. Biggest litmus test is coming up. Let us see how much they have grown.
     
  17. Busman

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    I am guilty of that. A few major ratings and I decided it was not something I put any value in. Don't even get me started about weather forecasting. It's hit and miss the same way PFF is Power Rankings. LOL
     
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  18. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    This link will explain a lot.

    https://www.pff.com/grades
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    this says a lot.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...S&cvid=68e92a3afe3543c083da83f293fb8b55&ei=15

    we went with a first rounder but it really hasn't fixed the problem. the interior hasn't gotten better either. they need to draft better. the interior needs to look to free agency i think and draft at tackle. the o-line has to be fixed. we can wait forever on these young guys but at some point they have to say they are not good enough. this is such a big part of the offense before we look to QB or WR. :cool:
     
  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I looked into it along time ago. It's why I don't trust anything they say.
     
  21. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about You, but I like someone to know what they are talking about when they judge something. If You don't know what someone is doing, how can You judge it??
    Most of these guy didn't even play JHS Football.
    Example of a a Qb throws a pass to set his Wrs down to avoid a hit, these yahoos call it a off target pass. LoL. Hell P. Manning was even talking about this after I've been saying it for years. You can't grade a player if You don't even know what the assignment was, or what they were trying to accomplish. It make no sense.
     
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  22. Karl

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    McCormick is the guy I've pointed out over the past weeks that Rogers had to call a timeout because of and Rogers gave him a 'prep talk' a few times over.
    If you are defending McCormick, you have not watched a game. He's gotten Rogers sacked and had a few run stuffs over his blown assignments.

    Now there is discussion about if he can develop... but his record to date, there is no discussion.
     
  23. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    SO

    MCCORMICK is yet seasoned
     
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  24. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    The nerds that work for PFF are the same dorks who back in HS couldn't figure out how to put their jockstraps on the right way.
     
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