The NFL has finally figured out how to defend the mobile QB's?

The NFL has finally figured out how to defend the mobile QB's?


As I have been saying for years , all the NFL need to do is have an enhanced QB spy ( either a middle ILB of safety and who's man is the QB's every projected passing down ( 2nd and 3rd and 5+ yards. ) , and loosely play zone coverage in the front middle, engaging the QB once he crosses the line of scrimmage. This will limit the top running qb running the ball. I call this position the " QB mobile killer " .

I took a look at the top 10 passing QB's, yards thrown and only one of them ( Allen ) rates. But Allen has passing skills and a great arm with a 6'5" 230 lbs+ with a superman type of body.
None of them are " mobile QB's "


https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/

Many very mobile Qb are currently hurt and those who are not have been deterred by this new strategy. OC's will use them at thier own risk. Small Qb's tend to get hurt.

For the purpose of defining what a mobile QB is, he generally can outrun a front sevan and run a 4.6 forty or better.

That is a running threat.

This differs greatly from what I refer to as " mobile pocket passers. " In layman's terms that is a 4.65 to 4.8 type of QB.


What does the board think? Am I on to something in terms of my observation?.


- JB

 

I have always believed that the teams that are good with playing zone have way less trouble with them. Also the good zone teams that can still play the mesh points like they do in college. The Steelers have been fairly successful against running Qbs, but nobody is going to be successful every time against any team because there is more to a football game than just the Qb.

 

Too soon to say that after what happened last year and the years before.

 

The QB spy concept has been around for ever it isnt a new idea and the fact that almost all QBs are cominginto the league with ability to run seems to fly in the face of the fact that NFL has figured out Mobile QB's. Lamar Jackson ran the ball 139 times for 915 yards last season.

 

That was last year. This year there is an increased spy role and the running QB's are limited from where thery were last year. The results speack for them selves.

It is a base nickel, with the spy assinged to the QB on passing downs. A spy cloud be the ILB or a safety. If a QB runs, he is often meeting the spy and getting hit. Jackson is crrently hurt along with Daniles, Fields, and McCarthy

 

Are You young?? The Qbs in the NFL for as far back as I can remember have had the ability to run. Some of the top amounts of Qb rushing attempts come from all the way back in 1932. They got away from this when the passing attacks started showing more promise.

 

Not young and he is not talking about QBs in 1932. In the 80's 90's and Early 2000,s the prototype for an NFL QB was a big pocket passer, Dual threat QBs were rare and they certainly werent running RPO. The NFL has seen a signficant shift in rushing attempts and rushing yards from the QB position because the prototype for QB is now a more athletic dual threat type.

 

The base defense is irrelevant for a spy concept, the concepts in todays game are based more on D-line funneling and contain, not were you line up a safety or LB'er. Also there is no data to support what you are saying, Qb,s are still running wild, and the fact that some have been hurt doesnt mean teams have stopped Qb's from running.

 

The nickel D on 2nd or 3rd with 5 plus yards to go is the best D for the spy. Either the ILB or the safety can be the spy. The NFL is evolving on defense due to below average QB passing skills and above average running by the QB. The emphasis on hitting the running QB has gotten many who do on the injury report.

The QB killer. Get used to the defense assigning a man to the QB just in case he runs.

As for stats there are none when defense uses a spy that I am aware of.

 

This is why I ask how young you are. There were plenty of running Qbs in the 80s, and 90s that were drafted because of their running abilities, They just didn't pan out.

 

Right. Before then our very own Terry Bradshaw averaged 5.1 years rushing for his career. Look it up. He was a mobile QB in a run-first, protect no QB era. Back then QB's were told to stay in the pocket.


Bradshaw accumulated 2,257 career rushing yards on 444 carries, scoring 32 rushing touchdowns over his 14-season career with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was also an effective goal-line runner and could use his strength and maneuverability to make plays or gain extra yards in crucial situations,

 

It isnt that nobody could run at all it's the fact the QB's are not the athletes that they are today. You are the one making the point that we need some Super spy to stop them. My comment clearly stated the concept of a spy has been around for ever acknowledging that qb's can scramble. There is a big difference between Terry Bradshaw rushing 33 times and Daniel Jones having a 120 rushing attempts. The point is that defenses have changed the ways they defend mobile QB's and its done with funneling but it not a magic formula as you see GM's gravitate toward QB's who can threaten the defense with their legs.

 

I stop reading after You accused me of saying we need a Super spy to stop them. Find where I said anything about having a spy. I'd suggest reading the comments again. I have never believed in using a spy, you are mixing me with someone else, and therefore it makes what you wrote seem even more lame. If you are going to comment ,at least know who you are commenting to, and what they have said. LoL. Also You need to brush up on the history of the NFL. It didn't just start 20 years ago. There have been Qbs that have averaged rushing a game more than even Lamar Jackson has ,before Lamar Jackson was even born, or thought about. There will be a big difference in rushing attempts in a season when some played only 12 games a season compared to 17 games a season.

 

I didnt accuse you, I accused Joel.

 

My bad.