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will TJ stay?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, May 21, 2025.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I think you..... need to re-read what I said.
     
  2. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    thank you, that is my smarts for the month. I will now go back to crying about Pickens.
     
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  3. Michael E

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    I mentioned the injury and maybe coming back too soon...if so, it was a bad choice. It's one thing to gut it out if we have nothing else, but if you're at 20% your normal effort, even a mediocre backup is better. Watt really hurt our D the last few games. He was invisible, no impact.

    I wonder if its one of those injuries that will slow him down moving forward...maybe not, but I'd hate to have him eat up 20% of the cap and be below-average. Risky as all get out.

    We've seen the best of Watt, at his age, players that rely on speed as much as anything deteriorate rapidly. He's strong, he can still be...good, but I don't think DPOY level good is on the horizon. To pay him like that would be BAD business...and crushing on the cap and ability to keep better, younger players.

    I hope he signs, for a REASONABLE high paid deal, for maybe 2 or 3 years (MAX).
     
  4. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    I know, it was my attempt at a joke lol
     
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  5. mikeyg

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    it WAS the injury and PLAYING TOO SOON.

    Tomlin playing him late into the 4th Q and then putting him back on the field the following week

    dummy.....
     
  6. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    So, Watt needs to be sat down and TOLD he is not the COACH.
     
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  7. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    bwahhahhahaaa

    keep defending the Tomlin D

    you LOSE
     
  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Wow .....some serious well thought out insights in that. LoL
     
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  9. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    I think he’s earned a nice contract. What the numbers are or should be I don’t know. If we wait too long we might have to pay him too much. If Micah gets a massive contract before we pay TJ, if we do, then he’ll want more than Micah. He’s a better LB than Micah IMO. I think we should keep him but he’s probably over them not giving him what he wants and I don’t blame him. He’s been all we have in the past 7 years. All that said he is getting older so I kind of understand why they are a little reluctant to give him a massive contract. Again I think he’s earned it.
     
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  10. bradshaw12

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    The side of me that has become disgusted with the money being paid out in sports, says let him go. I can remember feeling the same way about Woodson.
     
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  11. freakfontana

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    Would you trade watt for nolan smith straight up ?
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    OT contracts, namely Fully Guaranteed Money, will no doubt explode in 2026. As we debated before, Dan Moore Jr was the catalyst. Not the highest paid but a changing of the times.


    If Tyler Smith of the Dallas Cowboys has an All Pro season like I believe he will, the OT market is gonna explode. :eek:
     
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  13. Born2Steel

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  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers would be fools to think they need to give Watt more than Micah, Micah is 5-6 years younger than Watt.
     
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  15. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Part of the reason that Watt fades at the end of every season is that he plays every down like his hair is on fire. He is dominant early on in the year and racks up a lot of sacks and splash plays. But he just wears down and can't keep up that intensity all season.
     
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  16. Wardismvp

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    In my life time of watching the Steelers, very few 3rd contracts are given by the Steelers. Players must be HOF
    material for the third contract.. Ask Peazy, Harrison, Faneca who actually made the HOF.
    I also thought Cam Heyward was done, but look how he played last year, I believe TJ Watt will finish his career a Steeler.
     
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  17. mcam

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    People need to realize that this defense is entirely different with TJ on the field. The man is a Hall of Famer. He is a captain of this team now. He is the Alpha dawg.

    You'd simply be dumb to get rid of him unless someone is giving 3 1st round picks and then some.

    Bruce Smith was a stud far beyond 30. I'm making TJ retire a Steeler.
     
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  18. Vox Ferrum

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    The number itself is not as important as the guaranteed bucks, they could put a 50 million per year designation out there, and most of that could be bogus bucks that do not count for squat if he retires/gets cut after a certain time. The highest paid designation is BS in itself, hell he got that once, do you need that swell of pride for the 15 seconds it takes until the next guy comes along? odds are more likely than not he will get signed, structured in a way they can have the void years to ride it out, we just came out of Cap hell period from those type of things that really can hamper a teams operation in the future. It happens and will continue to be standard practice around the league, and the CAP going up will off set some of that, but sure gives a heartburn seeing guys getting 'paid' (on the books) years after they are gone and the team has nothing to show for it, in our case literally nothing for a decade.
     
  19. Vox Ferrum

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    The reports were that they were some calls about TJ, and they were not taken seriously. How much is true is total speculation, if a team offered 3 firsts and more, from a business perspective you have to look at it, I seriously doubt he has that much value on the market, you are not going to get a TJ again in this generation, but with that much capitol you can sure make moves to get your next QB. After the dust clears a deal is likely done, but the business side still has to be looked at.
     
  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    TJ can tap out when he needs a break :rolleyes:
     
  21. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Watt traded to the titans for a 2026 1st and a 2027 3rd!
     
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  22. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Normally I would take this as joke but with Omar anything is possible
     
  23. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    Packer might be interested in Trent Watt
     
  24. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    That's part of it, and I really believe then once He is worn down, there is not enough help elsewhere to compensate.
    Like I've said 100s of times.....we didn't move Harrison, Lloyd, Green, Woodley, and others around, they just had better OLB opposite of them, and if they drew too much doubles , the others made them pay.
     
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  25. Robert

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    Just saw an interesting thing on a youtube video if true. There is a minimum % of money that a team has to spend every couple of years. The Steelers are $20 million behind this minimum spend limit right now. They have this year and next to hit that cap limit. If they go as they are now, they roll the need to spend $20 million more into next year which would mean spending about $41 million next year above what they have spent this year.....

    Looking it up, it is a requirement to spend 89% of the cap over a 4 year period. If it is not spent, the Steelers have to take that money 'saved' and distribute it to the players who were on the team for the last 4 years. Apparently we are way behind. Next year we have a ton of draft picks, so we won't spend crazy money there. That should mean that the Steelers are sitting on a really big piggy bank that must be spent. I would think that TJ's contract will factor into that.
     

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