Head Coach Rankings

He is the definition of average or OK. Not a good enough coach to compete anymore (After the core retired) but not a bad enough coach to bottom out and rebuild. So we are stuck in the middle every Fing Year!

 

Obviously, the Rooneys are OK with the culture of mediocrity that Tomlin has established.

 

Agree
I don't understand the discrediting "non losing seasons" either and calling it "BS" doesn't make any sense either.
They guy fields a winning team, year in and year out.
I don't think they have a metric for "not able to win playoff games"
In fact I'd wager that is a coach fielded a team that went 17-0 but didn't win a single playoff game they would be a first round HOF ballot.
The Franchise may fire that coach but that is a totally different issue.

 

With his current resume, I believe he will make the HOF, but I don't think his current resume deserves it. The non-losing seasons thing is certainly impressive because it alludes to having success in multiple areas. Yes, he inherited a good team.... but he also helped build an entirely different good team later through drafting (which the HC has a good amount of influence on). The teams of the mid-late 2010's are completely different than the SB teams of the late 2000's. The team now is way different than the 2010's teams. We've built quality teams (each level of quality is less, but still quality nonetheless) in 3 different decades. That is irrefutable.

However, the overall lack of postseason success and fact that the majority of his success comes from his first 5 years in the league makes him not HOF for me. Had a great short run, but has been just ok since then. Look at the most recent HC's put into the HOF....

name - win % - SB
Bill Cowher - .623 regular season, .571 postseason, 1 SB win
Tony Dungy - .668 regular season, .474 postseason, 1 SB win
Jimmy Johnson - .556 regular season, .692 postseason, 2 SB win

Tomlin - .630 regular season, .421 postseason, 1 SB win

He is near the top as a regular season performer, but the worst postseason performer. This is extra concerning considering how well his career started in post season percentage. That means the last decade we've done a TON of losing in the playoffs. Though, I will say, Marv Levy is a HOF coach and he has a worse regular season % than Tomlin and no SB (despite having a better overall post season record). It wouldn't surprise me to see him get in, I just don't consider him a "top coach". The luster of considering Tomlin a high end coach is wearing off, and while he had a really great short run, he's been overwhelmingly average (well, slightly above average) for the majority of his career. Good coach overall. He won a SB. Can't take that away from him. Likely a HOF'er despite my contention that I don't see him that way.

 

Because some people can't see outside of certain things. Nobody, with any honesty, can tell me winning seasons don't matter, and they are easy to do. Anyone with a thimble of sense knows that if it was easy to do, all the HCs would do it. Also I have yet to see one person show me a HC, that has been to two SBs, (I notice a lot of people like to leave that off),and never had a losing season, that has been fired.
Now if He got fired tomorrow, I would root just as hard for his replacement, but to think any HC with his resume is not going to the HOF ,is just the same hate as people that think Ben Roethlisberger, with his resume is not going. It's laughable.

 

Last I checked you're not on the hall of fame committee

 

Tomlin's mom donated an egg that was injected with both Barry Switzer and Marty Schottenheimer sperms... somehow, exactly half of each sperm fertilized the egg.

The result makes over $10M per year and will go into the NFL HOF. Amazing luck.

 

The QB pickings have been slim. The Steelers have been poorly positioned most years to get a perceived top pick QB in the draft. I also think that the Steelers are terrible at developing QBs. They spent a very long time not having to even consider developing a QB. When the time came, they were saddled with poor coaching and a defense minded head coach. I believe that the defense mindset of the HC contributes to the problem. Under Tomlin, we are always going to have some top skill, top pay, splash players on defense.....but we are not going to see some of that $$ love move into the offense until a franchise QB falls into our lap......but again, we are stuck in a vicious loop of not being well positioned in the draft due to our 'winning seasons'.

1st round draft history for last 21 years:

2005 30 Heath Miller TE Virginia
2006 25 Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Lawrence Timmons LB Florida State
2008 23 Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois
2009 32 Evander Hood DT Missouri
2010 18 Maurkice Pouncey C Florida
2011 31 Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State
2012 24 David DeCastro G Stanford
2013 17 Jarvis Jones LB Georgia
2014 15 Ryan Shazier LB Ohio State
2015 22 Bud Dupree LB Kentucky
2016 25 Artie Burns CB Miami
2017 30 T. J. Watt LB Wisconsin
2018 28 Terrell Edmunds S Virginia Tech
2019 10 Devin Bush LB Michigan
2020 – No pick – – [o]
2021 24 Najee Harris RB Alabama
2022 20 Kenny Pickett QB Pittsburgh
2023 14 Broderick Jones OT Georgia
2024 20 Troy Fautanu OT Washington
2025 21 Derrick Harmon DT Oregon

Our highest 1st round pick was #10 for Devin Bush in 2019. 1-10 one pick, 11-20 seven picks, 21-32 twelve picks and 1 year of zero picks.

Another interesting point is that in 15 seasons, the #1 draft pick for Cowher was an offense player 11 times. Under Tomlin, in 19 seasons, there have been 7 offense players taken in the first round. I really do think that we pay too much attention to the defense and not enough to the offense. Half the games in our season depend on the defense making big plays to keep us alive or give us the win.

 

What???

 

I believe that would make Mike very Caucasian. Also, maybe your dad should have used a condom.

 

SORRY CAN'T UNDERSTAND
BEING THAT YOU BE FROM TN WITH NO TEEFUS IN YOUR MOUF
CLAMORING ABOUT MEDIOCRITY AND CANT DO MASTICATION
PONTIFICATION FROM THE ROCKY TOP

GOTTA LOVE IT

 

Aww bring your floaty noodles to the pool and remember

DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS!!

 

Gentlemen, brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.

 

The chart is about right. He is a playoff coach because of AR. If we didnt get AR i wonder if Tomlin is still in that tier.

yeah hes a lock for the HOF. He can thank his lucky stars he inherited a super bowl caliber team that just needed some tweaks.

 

That dude is on some good ****. Either that or he’s missing a chromosome or two.

 

No I’m not. Excellent point.

 

Tomlin's kind of a conundrum. He's overachieved with Kenny Pickett and winning 10 games and making the playoffs, and then other years when he had a HOF QB, Bell, Brown, Bryant, Miller and a good OL and couldn't get past the first round of the playoffs.

Years ago, you could make the case that he was the second best coach in the NFL behind only Belichick and perhaps slightly better than other one SB win coaches: Pete Carroll, McCarthy, Sean Payton, and Harbaugh, but you can't say that any more. I'm not sure Tomlin's in the top five of NFL coaches right now.