Do you feel better with Aaron Rogers at QB?

Drew Brees won a SB with the 20th ranked defense. Not horrible. But certainly not what I would call good.

 

Nobody here is claiming that you must have a good running game or star running back to win a Super Bowl. The point was the comparison between Marino's teams and Aikman's teams. None of those guys you mentioned were anywhere close to Emmitt Smith. Look at your own comparisons. You listed one back with a season over 1,000 yards. One. The Cowboys of that era were built around the running of Smith, not the passing of Aikman, while Marino was usually expected to carry the Dolphins.

As someone already mentioned, many of those Dolphin defenses fell apart in the playoffs, not giving Marino much of a chance. Look at the specific example of Marino's rookie season. Marino outplayed his counterpart, Dave Krieg, in that loss to the Seahawks helped the Dolphins take the lead late in the fourth quarter. The defense blew the lead, then Fulton Walker fumbled the next two kickoffs to give away any chance they would have to rally. How is that Marino's fault? By the way, that was one of the two seasons during Marino's career the Dolphins gave up the fewest points. The other came when he was 37 years old. By that age, Aikman was out of the league.

 

The saints won their super bowl because of their number 1 offense but their defense were still good....They were a great fourth quarter defense all year long and they were first in turnovers too

 

And a smart man knows there is a difference between stats, and actually watching the game, but You know this, it just doesn't support your narrative right now.

 

All players take awhile to get over a major injury, and the 1st year is the worst.

 

Because I like to.

 

No, you indeed wrote, "He never had a running game."

 

So what was the excuse at Pitt when he had a GREAT DEFENSE where he threw 64 interceptions despite missing playing time with injuries NO ONE ever answers me that one. EVER. 11 times Marino threw for three or more interceptions in his college career and SEVEN times he would throw FOUR or more interceptions in a game! So what was the excuse then????

 

Guess that depends on how you define 'good'.

 

The Pitt team in the early 80's was one of the most talented team in college history, poor coaching and untimely turnovers kept them from a national title back then.
They had Marino at QB, first round pick Randy McMillan at RB, Julius Dawkins and Dwight Collins at WR, Benjie Pryor at TE. The offensive line was the greatest in college history, Emil Boures, Jimbo Covert, Russ Grim, Mark May and Bill Fralic. The defense was just as good with legends like Hugh Green and Ricky Jackson. Sal Sunseri, Tom Flynn, Carlton Williamson and Tim Lewis were also on that team. It was the most frustrating team I've ever watched. They should have blown out every team they played and they did go 31-5 during Marino's 3 years there but they had the talent to do so much more.

 

They were not bad and they had their moment....If you want a bad saints defense look at the 2012 and 2014-2016 season when they had the worst defense in the NFL and they finish at 7-9 each of those years...For the bad playoffs defense,look at 2010 and 2011

I never see a team winning the super bowl with a poor defense in the playoffs....You can survive that in the regular season but never in the playoffs.The 2006 colts defense were very poor in the regular season but they were great in the playoffs

 

In 18 playoffs game with Marino,the dolphins gave up 26.2 PPG...Awful,especially in that era

In each of the 10 playoffs exit,the dolphins gave up over 34 PPG and had only 51 rushing yards per game.....No QB can win in this situation

In comparaison,the 49ers with Montana gave up 28 points in 3 playoffs game in 1988 and 26 points in 3 playoffs game in 1989.Their defense were so underrated

 

1982 Penn State 48 Pitt 14

WE ARE

 

The two things you highlighted in his post were statistics. Those are things you should look up even if you did watch the game.

A truly intelligent person utilizes all available information rather than relying on their memory of events that occurred decades ago. I'm not certain if you know that or not, but you don't want to hear about it because it doesn't support your narrative right now.

You are one of the two posters who tried to dismiss statistics entirely from the conversation. When you realized that was foolish, it turned to focusing on only the statistics that work in favor of your argument while ignoring the massive overall statistical advantage that Marino has over Aikman.

You want to trust your gut and ignore the knowledge at our fingertips. I know it is smarter to use both, so I use both. That is one reason why my argument is better than yours. The other is that Marino was clearly a better quarterback than Aikman.

 

What two things???? I believe you maybe confusing me with someone else.

 

Stop....stop. it's hilarious You throwing out stats like You actually watched the games. It's freaking comical.

 

With stats like that,you don't need to watch game to know how bad the dolphins defense were in the playoffs

I guess,I can't know the expension Tampa Bay buccaners were awful at the start because I did not watch their game at that time?

Make no sense

 

Yeah ok. You , Me, and everyone knows there is a difference. You said Yourself You didn't start watching football till the 2000s. You are sitting here quoting stuff like You actually watch the games. If there wasn't a difference, then why ever watch??? Because when you actually watch You see actually how, and why those stats actually happened. There is many, many ,many things involved to make those stats. You know this. Like I said this would be like Me arguing about Bobby Layne. I don't because it would be foolish, yeah I could spout out a bunch of stats, but I didn't see how they actually came about, so it's dumb to do.

 

I would no problem if you was arguing about Booby Layne or any players who play in the 1940s,1950s or thing like that

 

LoL
I'm not actually capitalizing it, my phone shows it that way 1st as soon as I start to type it, and so I just click it.

 

And I watch the game because I love that!

 

Yeah it's not like me to argue about something I know nothing about. If You notice when the older guys discuss something before the 70s Steelers....I remain quiet, but I come from an era we don't think we know about stuff we actually didn't do, or didn't even witness. That came with later generations.

 

Where is the FootballAnalCyst when we need him

Ok that’s like needing a hemorrhoid

 

That's exactly what I mean. Pitt had no business losing to anyone let alone by 34 points but you had Joe Paterno going against Foge Fazio that alone was probably worth 5 touchdowns in Penn State's favor.