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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, May 27, 2025.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Allen>Stroud
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    No
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Not I, but we all have our opinions, and only difference is .....Mine is correct. LoL. JK
    Never been a fan of Allen. He may prove me wrong one day.
     
  4. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  5. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    They caught on at the end of the season. What was it 5 straight games at the end where watt didn't contribute anything?
     
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  6. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Burrow, hands down, is the best QB in the NFL....even without rings. Period. Add Burrow to Dolphins, Broncos or Vikings = Lombardi
     
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  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    If you go back and look at the game stats, not only did the Bills defense give up 33 ppg in their playoff losses, but they also only generated a total of 3 turnovers in those 5 games. Meanwhile Allen produced 12 combined passing/rushing TDs with only 2 TOs.
     
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  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Broncos?
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Allen second best QB in the league and not even close. He’s right there with Mahomes, IMO.

    Now excuse me while I get my shields up before STD fires his photon torpedos at me.
     
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  10. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’d put Burrow in that company well, but yeah, STD can’t bring himself to admit what’s obvious :roflmao:
     
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  11. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, because they usually have a decent enough defense, good O line and skill players.
     
  12. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget that Cam Newton backed up Tim Tebow at Florida until transferring to Auburn
     
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  13. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    The double teams on Watt would lesson, or dissappear entirely if Highsmith made made offenses pay for it
     
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  14. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    The Mount Rushmore of QB's in the NFL now are Mahomes, Allen, Jackson and Burrow. You could make a case for any of them to be the best in the league.
     
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  15. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't put LJ in that group. He's really good in the regular season, but inconsistent and sometimes downright awful in the playoffs like Ben was from 2011-2021.
     
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  16. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Hard to put pressure when the opposing QB know where to throw before the snap....So this is hard to put pressure when the QB throw often under 2 seconds...Of course,the pressure in the middle was not good too
     
  17. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Jackson has already won 2 MVP's and came a hair from winning a third one last year. He is definitely one of the top 4 QB's in the league.
     
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  18. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    41 TD passes, 4 INTs, over 4000 passing yards and not to mention his legs(over 900 rushing yards), he's impossible to ignore for the top 4....And possible the Ravens would have won against the Bills last year without the fumble and the crucial drop pass by Andrews last year

    In my opinion,Mahomes is first but after that Jackson and Allen are about even in second and third.Burrow is fourth
     
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  19. jeh1856

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    Made me think of “21 non loosing seasons”
     
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  20. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    I'm simply talking about the top 4 QB's in the league right now. If Hurts wins another ring this year then he has to move into the top 4. Daniels and Stroud could be there eventually.
     
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  21. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    How many MVPs did Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers win? Manning got 2 SB wins, but one of them Von Miller got for him. Rodgers? Dude has won multiple MVPs and only 1 SB. Until LJ wins a Lombardi... he is not as good as Burrow, Allen and Mahomes. Those 3 are better in the playoffs.

    Ben won 2 Super Bowls and 0 MVPs. LJ is nowhere near as good as Roethlisberger from 2004-2011.

    Has Mahomes ever won a MVP?
     
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  22. jeh1856

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    See response from HeinzMustard above
     
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  23. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Mahomes won the mvp twice
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    OK, I wasn't sure... since LJ has been winning most of them lately.
     
  25. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Patrick sucked last year and everyone knew it.
     
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