Kahn has basically rebuilt the entire roster

All the pieces but the coach is not at this level

 

43% and it drops off a cliff after that, there's no sure things, but if you're trrying to draft a franchise QB you need to need to as high as you can be.

O-line needs help?

It's had a ton of investment, it's time for that investment to pay off, it's make or break season for Broderick Jones, we've lost a season of evaluation on Fantanu already.

 

And that 43% is misleading

I read where this is based on the puck being signed to a second contract

If a first round QB is signed to a backup contract that is still a bust of a pick

If you look at it from a starter perspective it’s something like a 82% failure/bust

 

Does he!


Five years of whiffs?! Man that is nuts. Here is hoping Khan continues to strike gold.

 

Colbert got stuck drafting for need as opposed to bpa in his later years. Golson, jones, burns, Davis….

 

Welp, Tomlin did promise change in 2025 just maybe not the change you were hoping for:

Steelers are only NFL team entering 2025 without their top QB, RB and WR from 2024

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...2025-without-their-top-qb-rb-and-wr-from-2024

 

Their solution to an offense that struggled all season is to come back the following year with even less talent on offense. Nice!

 

#coachingMATTERS

are we missing b/c we are not developing and coaching well?

chicken or egg

Jones was very young and then played at about 80% last year with that elbow issue.

THIS is make or break for that kid.

 

It's a bit funny how, for all the moves they've made over the past two offseasons, the offense on paper is nearly the same.

Pickett/Trubisky --- Fields/Wilson --- Rudolph/Howard

Harris/Warren --- Harris/Warren --- Johnson/Warren

Johnson --- Pickens --- Metcalf
Pickens --- Jefferson --- Woods (or Wilson?)
Austin III --- Austin III --- Austin III

Freiermuth --- Freiermuth --- Freiermuth

Moore Jr. --- Moore, Jr. --- Jones
Seumalo --- Seumalo --- Seumalo
Cole --- Frazier --- Frazier
Daniels --- Daniels/McCormick --- McCormick
Jones --- Jones --- Fautanu

WR2 has seen the biggest downgrade, center the biggest upgrade, at least until we see how Johnson, Jones, and Fautanu do this year.

EDIT: Wilson, too

 

so.......it's about a system as much as players. and we don't have an A caliber QB. Coaching is sub-par, we have no idea where we want to go or want to be.

Tomlin thinks it is 2006 - you score ~17 pts, kick FGs, don't turn the ball over and rely on the defense. that is NOT the game today.

 

WAAAAH.

 

1st .Cowher was the HC in 2006
2nd. They averaged 22 points a game. So....

 

Is that what is called 'shuffling the deck chairs'?

 

it was.......2006 (we sucked in 2006, BTW)

the game has CHANGED

come on man, come on.

it is WIDE OPEN offensive attack now, MADE to SCORE LOTS of points.

Tomlin does not get it

he never will

some seem to think this is about the color of the coach, that is so dumb to me.....

 

Even in the Killer B's era, Tomlin too often wanted a ball control offense and keep the game close, especially when the Steelers were on the road.To compete with the best teams, it takes more than that!

Our first quarter offense was mostly below average in the Tomlin era, and our best offense was always when the Steelers were in a 2-minute offense and we had to score in the fourth quarter.

Under Cowher in 2004 and 2005, the Steelers had a top-3 offense in PPG in the first quarter, but it was after that that the Steelers had a Cowherball offense.But let's be honest, it worked really well, since Cowher was like 110-1-1 in his career when we had a lead of at least 11 points.

How many times were we leading 10-0 or more in the first quarter in the Tomlin era? Too few times, unfortunately.

 

2006 was the Ben preseason, appendectomy/motorcycle crash year. Final year of coach chin.

 

yep - a suck season

 

So it's hard to say You were wrong???
You said Tomlin coaches like it's 2006 , and 17 points.
Tomlin was DC in 2006, and the Steelers averaged 22 points.
And You are the only one I know talking about color of a coach.

 

The steelers had around 18 PPG in 2022 and 2023 and they even keep Matt Canada after the awful 2022 season(and 2021) by the offense....He was not that far off.You can't win big with such a mediocre offense even if you have a very low number of turnovers

 

Why are you saying this. What does Tomlin that was a DC in 2006, and a team that averaged 22 points a game in 2006 have anything to do with it. You both are moving the goal post. I was talking about what He said, and You guys are talking about something totally different.
Again....He said Tomlin coach's like 2006, and only scores 17 points.
Tomlin was a DC in 2006, and in 2006 we averaged 22 points a game. So again stick to the topic of what he wrote.

 

His point is that it was easier to win low-scoring games back then than it is now because of safety rules since the middle of the 2010 season (can't hit the receiver in the middle and things like that, etc.). I mean, football has changed a lot in the last 20 years, but Tomlin has changed very little.A head coach needs to evolve

Also one of my biggest problems with our offense, and this was also the case in the Killer B's era, is our offense rarely has a fast start in the first quarter. They're rarely up 10-0 in the first quarter.

Rarely since Bruce Arians left we started the game with a touchdown on the first drive of the game. If you look at Kyle Shanahan or Andy Reid teams, no matter what QB they have, they're always strong on the first drive of the game and first quarter....For Tomlin,the first quarter don't matter much for him for some reason if you look at his comment back in 2023 after a game

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/10/m...tinued-first-quarter-futility-out-of-offense/