Steelers fans need to relax

You have absolutely no proof of that....not one single bit. Roethlisberger was .....
1. Not the 1st Qb taken
2. Not the 2nd Qb taken
3. Was already passed by teams that needed a Qb.
So You have no proof saying if We went 8-8 we wouldn't have gotten him.

 

There's no coherent plan here at all. I said from day 1, they should have rolled with Fields and see how it went, we'd have a QB room of Fields, Rudolph, and Howard set now. With Metcalf and Pickens, and the other draft additions. That QB room is plenty good enough for a team with zero hope of winning it all anyway, and if they're eyeing a 1st round QB next year, it also has a good shot of landing you a top 10 pick.

Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic springs to mind.

I hope Rodgers doesn't sign now because it will serve them right for being held hostage by him, and for trying to tank and compete and not really doing either.

 

The odds would have been slim to none.... The Bills, who had the 13th pick, wanted Roethlisberger and they tried to get the 10th pick from the Texans, but they failed. They made a huge reach after that on J.P. Losman with the other first-round pick they had.

The Giants would have also drafted Roethlisberger if they hadn't gotten Eli Manning in a trade.

 

That is yet another reason why this trade was so stupid. It is only May 7 and the Steelers panicked and took a lowball offer from the Cowboys. That pretty much ensures that if they do try to trade for a replacement, the other team will be in a position to rip them off.

 

If we trade for that low production lazard. That confirms Tomlin has dirty knees for aaron Rodgers

 

First time a good WR goes down from a real contending team the Steelers would have been dictating terms, instead they panicked and sold low.

 

Exactly. They had months to get something done. That is how they got a great return on Claypool.

 

Why are you complaining about the return for Pickens? They got a 3rd and a 5th for a guy going into his last season, no team was going to give up a second round pick for Pickens.

 

I don't expect them to find another WR as good as Pickens, but they should be able to get a WR better than the other guys besides Metcalf.

 

I wouldn't give up a 4th for Lazard.

 

You tend to wear rose-colored glasses too often on anything Steelers.... but I agree with you on this.

 

Bet Rodgers is begging Tomlin for it and saying he'll sign if they trade for him.

I wouldn't give a 7th for lazard by the way.

 

I'm sure Rodgers told this to you personally

 

Hahaha… bad comparison. Getting rid of Dioante was a good move. No vacancy for headcases.
They kinda got bigger fish to fry than wr…qb anyone?

 

While losing Pickens was no doubt bad, that by itself shouldn't be the main takeaway from Pickens getting traded for the time being. What should be taken away currently is the fact that the Steelers are all in on the Offensive Line along with Pat Meyer. As I been on record before, I wanted him out after the conclusion of the 2024 Campaign. Clearly the team sees something in him that the detractors do not.


Either the Offensive Line will take the steps necessary to become one of the best in the NFL or the Steelers will have a losing season under Tomlin; Aaron Rodgers or not. Those are the only outcomes. Way too much has been made about Rodgers and very little has been discussed about if the Offensive Line itself can take that next step.


In short?! The fate of the 2025 Pittsburgh falls on the big boys up front on Offense. How good the season will turn out hinges on their maturation.

 

The fact that Meyer is again our o-line coach for 2025 is almost as bad that when the steelers keep Canada after 2022 despite 2 brutal years on offense

But I would not be surprise if they have a 9-8 type season with several lucky win and being outplayed and outgained,similar to the first 3 months of the 2023 seasons,so the chance to have a true franchise QB will be very low...Of course I can't trust Tomlin to develop a young franchise QB

 

I cannot say personally what the record will be without looking at the schedule; soon to be released. All I know is that three game grind between Philly, Baltimore and Kansas City did quite a number on the team.

 

I was talking about the 2023 season(the link below),not last year

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2023.htm

 

I understand you were referring to 2023!


I just cannot, in good faith, state that the record will be that. Keep in mind that the Defense is older in 2025 than it was in 2023.

 

Peanuts? Come on, Scribe. It's a third round pick. I can't imagine you honestly thinking another team was giving up more than that, given his other issues and being in a contract year. And you're the one that's always criticizing Khan for trying to get a "perfect" deal.

Panicking would have been accepting the Cowboys' offer of a fourth ahead of the draft.

I get that you don't like the trade. That's okay. But you're reaching with the panicking peanuts narrative.

 

In summary.
The trade has been a hot topic all day across many groups/teams.

The conventional wisdom is that it is a poor trade, not because of value but because of failures at so many levels in Pittsburgh.
Pinky wasn't involved but The Brain was when it came to selecting Pickens.
He was also in on the terrible cycle of events surrounding the QB position.
And if Tomlin is making the call, then whose idea was it to circumvent the office of the GM?

There's no doubting the talent Pickens has, he demonstrated that in his first camp and preseason.
But his head got worse as time rolled by. DJ wasn't a good influence, that's for sure.
A cycle of QB's didn't help.

Taking Pickens out of the picture, I think it is clear we have an organizational problem.
The GM and Head Coach are supposed to be on the same wave length. The GM team scouts talent all year, so they should know all the issues.
The HC doesn't have time for that. He may just like what he reads or occasionally sees.

HC: "I like this kid Pickens"
GM/Scouting: "He's talented but his head isn't screwed on right. He can help us but can you work with that?"
Decision box: Yes/No
Coach: If no then "I want to maintain a standard of excellence here. I want players that are leaders."

I think our front office is weak.
If true, allowing Tomlin too much freedom, It's obvious those decisions aren't working.
They make a move but just go MIA, they do nothing to follow it up.
I can list items for a week... I just don't have the time to waste on it.

Hooray, Pickens is gone and now our locker room has been cleansed.
If Pickens goes to Dallas and catches 20 TDs and 1500 yards, this is an epic fail of legendary proportions.
If Pickens goes to Dallas and does zip, then Pinky and the Brain come off as genius's or more correctly Tomlin does since you cannot have it both ways.

I kind of mark 2025 as a throw away year.
We have no QB but we can take a look at a Rookie and/or give a retread another chance. Who knows what happens?
We have some decent base talent.
And a good haul of picks for next year.

 

Tomlin is making all the calls, he has been since DLB left.

 

I`m relaxed because we have no chance of winning it all this year.

2026 might be interesting.

 

The sun will come up tomorrow, the trade had to happen.
I just wish it would have been during the draft. But as someone mentioned
You were not going to get much better than they did for a malcontent, head case. Let someone else baby sit him . MT shouldn't have too.

 

A perfect deal would have been a first-round pick or a second-rounder and the swap of later picks. A worthwhile value would have been a two. This is neither.

Even worse, they are settling for a pick next year instead of a 2025 draft pick.

They had two choices. Keep Pickens and get a comp pick in 2027, probably a third-rounder, or trade him for a third-round pick in 2026 and a swap of 2027 late-round picks. The first option gets them thes services of Pickens in a contract year, when he has motivation to play whether he wants to be there or not.

Losing an entire season of Pickens just to have the third-rounder a year earlier isn't worth it, but they panicked and took a bad deal, one that doesn't give them nearly enough value for what they gave up.

This isn't even including whatever resources they might spend on a replacement. What if they trade for a replacement? Or spend money on one? Those are resources they wouldn't have had to spend if they didn't make the deal. The potential cost of a replacement went up because they rushed to take a bad deal from the Cowboys before acquiring one. The agent of any free agent they try to sign will know they are hurting for ar receiver. So will the GM of any team they try to make a trade with to get one.