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Kahn has basically rebuilt the entire roster

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:05 AM.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Just like us?!....How many times have they been down by 21 points in a playoff game?

    If you're not embarrassed by the fact that the Steelers have been down by at least 21 points in each of the last six playoff games, good for you, because for me and for so many Steelers fans, it's a big disgrace and yet nothing changes in the Steelers' philosophy
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    who cares if it's 21 or 1 and we still lose? it's a loss. :cool:
     
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  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    An embarrassing loss every time is a problem....I mean, if you don't see a problem with 6 straight playoff blowout losses, good for you, I just hope the Steelers don't feel the same.They could have an NFL record with 9 straight playoff losses if it continue....They are 3 away from that record :facepalm:....
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    a loss is a loss. if you don't see that there is a problem. there is not a loss better than the next. :cool:
     
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  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    wow just wow. you are embarrassing yourself. :cool:
     
  6. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

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    Disagree how you compete matters. If you are in the game and lose ok but being blown out is a bigger problem. That means you are not even close to competing
     
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    teams have bad games. it doesn't always reflect the whole season. he's saying in a playoff game. you are playing the top teams. if you are being blown out all year then you won't be there to start with. :cool:
     
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  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Awful game can happen even in the playoffs...But when this is 6 playoffs game in a row that this is a L and we are down by at least 21 points every in those game,this is way more embarrassing.I don't think it's hard to understand, but you make it sound more complicated than it is.
     
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  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    how many coaches would still be running the show for any other team that does that? a franchise qb guarantees nothing. injuries. depth. bad games. coaching. so many things factor into losses. it's no one thing that can just change that in any given year. when you squeak in as the last seed, there is a good chance you will be blown out by a better team on the road. :cool:
     
  10. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about the Steelers, not just Tomlin. I agree that when a team is in the 7th seed, it's possible to be blown out, but not being competitive in any of its games is very disappointing. The Steelers broke NFL records of mediocrity in the playoffs every time.

    Also, the Steelers have been too stuck in the middle for years, I'm saying since at least 2022. In my opinion, they need a true rebuild, even if you're going to finish 5-12 or 6-11 in a season or two, since right now they finish 10-7 at best, and when they're in the playoffs, all the other playoff teams want to play against the Steelers, so things aren't moving forward.
     
  11. Karl

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    There are players who show up for 'Big Games' like Joe Montana.
    There others who manage to choke, like Romo, Lamar, Dan Marino... a few others.

    Guys like Elway and Farve, those teams decided to get the player to get them over the top... A team like Buffalo comes to mind, they have a top notch QB and probably would have 3 Super Bowl appearances if not for KC. At some point they need to figure out they just can't rely on Josh Allen's super hero antics.

    Pittsburgh, I consider a weak front office. Some folks point to the coaching but it really, really, really is the GM's job to address that. "Hey Art, this guys blowing up my 1st round picks and is not with todays game."

    Pittsburgh like's to operate 'Old Skool'
    They got a unbelievable string of non-losing seasons. Fans don't really know what suffering is, which is when your team's season is done by week 3... abandon all hope, year in and year out.
    But there's that playoff thing. Pittsburgh has not yet figured out how to load up and get past that barrier.
     
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  12. strummerfan

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    hate to break it to you, but we are in the middle of a complete rebuild. Sorry you didn’t get your wish of a 5 win season first, but make no mistake we are rebuilding
     
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  13. Steelersfan43

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    They wasted Watt's peak years in this case....if they were in a true rebuild, the Steelers would have done the smart thing and traded him while his value was at its highest....When our rebuilding what you're saying is over, Watt won't be the same player, so we will have wasted a chance to have big draft capital during that period
     
  14. Steelersfan43

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    And the only rebuilding move that the steelers have done under Khan was to trade Claypool for a second round draft pick,who was a great move.But for the rest,Khan signed too many old players like Peterson,Russell Wilson,Slay and maybe Rodgers to have fix in the short term.A rebuilding team don't sign old players

    In a rebuilding situation,Justin Fields would have had a entire season without handcuffing him to see if he would be our answer or not for the future instead to gave the job to a 35 years old QB
     
  15. HeinzMustard

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    Steelers haven't had a playoff game in which they were not blown out since 2016 vs Chiefs with Alex Smith at QB. Steelers couldn't even score a TD in that game with HOF QB, All Pro RB, All Pro WR and Pro Bowl players on the O line. Thank the godz for Boz.

    Common denominator for lack of preparation in the playoffs: Coach Popcorn
     
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  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it can't all be done through the draft. a first rounder is a rookie that first year and even the best take time to get up to speed. even if you get the best first rounders and second rounders and give each that first season bye the first ones you drafted are by then due for a second contract and on it goes. players age at different rates. injuries happen. lost seasons along the way happen. even with draft capital it is not a perfect storm within a couple of years. too many other factors. if you keep trading the guys that become stars, you become the pirates. all you are doing is feeding the rest of the league. :cool:
     
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  17. strummerfan

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    What a load of horse crap. You don’t trade away great players in hopes you can draft the same or better. Those great players are the foundation of what you’re trying to build. We have several great players, but we didn’t win the superbowl let’s trade them away and start over again from scratch. Said no one ever with half a working braincell
     
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  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    look no farther than the head coach. we have seen the steelers decline towards the end of the season for many years, not just the playoff game. when most teams are peaking we always seem to be declining. when you go into every game without changes to fit that opponent this happens. the we do what we do is not a winning formula but it doesn't change, no matter the players we have. :cool:
     
  19. Steelersfan43

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    True that several great players have never won a super bowl, but when you know that you have no chance of winning during his prime years and that you are in a rebuilding situation, why waste his prime years, when you can have great draft capital for this player like 2 first round picks and more?

    I mean when our foundation will be over according to you, Watt is going to be old, so likely no longer the same player and it's going to be a waste, unfortunately
     
  20. CK 13

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  21. Steelersfan43

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    The Pirates' biggest problem is that they're cheap as hell so their GM is too handcuffed and you can't compare a sport without a salary cap to one with a salary cap.

    I agree that you can't build a team through drafting alone, but the best way is to wait for the right opportunity in free agency... It's also important to have good flexibility.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    Fields didn't get that because the Steelers didn't view him as a viable long-term option. They needed a cheap backup after trading Pickett. He fit the bill. They were okay with him being their bridge for 2025 and maybe another year, but not committed to the idea. That's why he is gone.
     
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  23. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    You’re delusional if you think any team is giving up two first round picks or more for tj watt.
    We’re done here. You’ve gone from ridiculous to just plain stupid
     
  24. Steelersfan43

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    The Bears gave up 2 first rounds pick for Mack in 2018....The rams offer 2 first round pick to Brian Burns in 2022 but the panthers reject it.But this is me who is too delusional....
     
  25. Born2Steel

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    The problem with the playoff loss debate is that it's not all one game. Each game has its own story separate from the others.


    One of those games where we got down by 21 we actually came all the way back. We still lost the game but the effort was definitely there. We just had a very bad defense that year and couldn't stop the other team.


    In another game we had our starting RB and WR, both considered tops in the league btw, on the sidelines injured. How do you game plan that? It became a street ball game for us and we lost.


    How about the game when we started the game with a red zone turnover and then a pick 6?

    These are not the same game experience. Judge each on its own merit. Otherwise it makes no sense.
     
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