AAron will be talking to the Steelers today

And there is no such thing as a 4 year window

You are wrong there as well

 

He is a bench quarterback, he never in the NFL had a starting job, never was named the starter for a season, never took all starter reps in preseason and offseason. Never was the starter. Never was trained to be the starter. Was not the starter. He came off the bench when the starter was hurt in relief. Don't be thick.

 

Yes there is. You are wrong. It is a contract business, for multiple years for starting QBs.
QBs are hired to start either as draft picks with 4 year contract, or at negotiating table. They get their starting role for those years and after those years you evaluate whether they gave the team a chance to compete for SB or, and then you extend them or not.
It's not a Tomlin's one year, or a few games plan. A QB needs all the starter reps, they are precious, and years of playing experience with the team is precious, QB needs all that to accomplish what he is hired to do. Evaluation is at the end of the contract.

 

Mason was the starter for the rest of the season in 2019 when Ben was out for the rest of the year after 2 week but he was awful,so much he was benched for the Duck...Mason was playing with house money at the end of 2023,I don't think he can be a good starter and this is him the clear cut starter....Without the steelers he would be in the CFL at this point

 

Well, he started a playoff game and lost... so he's 9-9-1 in his career as a starter. Perfect .500.

That is about as good as we can expect from a season where Mason starts. He's probably better than Russ was to end the year. If the defense plays well we can win some games, maybe even make the playoffs. We aren't likely to win a playoff game though. Weirder things have happened. Geno Smith became a full time starter for the first time in 2022 (after failing in two seasons with the Jets to start his career) at 32 years old. Mason is younger than that. Now, I am not saying that is what I expect to happen (I do not)... but you never know.

I'd almost rather find out with Mason this year, and if he sucks throw Howard out there to see if he sinks or swims. It will tell us pretty quick what we need to do in 2026 in the first round of the draft. The team around the QB is actually a good roster. Decent QB play will win us plenty of games this year.

 

So the Browns should have given Johnny Manziel a 4 year window, the Bengals given Akili Smith a 4 year window, the Chargers given Ryan Leaf a 4 year window and the Raiders given Jamarcus Russell a 4 year window. No when you see a QB sucks you put him on the bench or cut him.

 

They should not had drafted Manziel because Manziel was not ready to start because he was a poor decision maker. He needed to be trained in that. He threw too many picks and put the ball in harms way too much. And he did not have physical attributes to overcome those deficiencies, 6-0 207, he is smallish for NFL QB,
That is not the type of QB you draft in first round or any round to start and train to take you to SB, coming out of college. It's a poor decision.

So, first you need to draft a QB who is worthy of a chance to compete for SB coming out of college. You cannot draft QB who is not worthy of that chance like Manziel.

Mason was worthy just like Big Ben coming out. Just like Will Howard coming out.
Stats in last season of college, the thesis year:

Ben 6-5 241: 14 G, 495 attempts. 69%, 4486, 37TD, 10 INT
Mason: 6-5 235: 13 G, 489 attempts, 65%, 4904, 37TD, 9 INT, 24 SK
Howard 6-4 236: 17 G, 423 attempts, 73%, 4010, 35 TD, 10 INT, 14 SK National Champ

This is good, this is starting quarterback frame and production in thesis year, first round. They can run the offense. You can give them the starting job. Not Manziel:

Manziel 6-0, 207: 13G, 429 attempts, 70%, 4114, 37 TD, 13 INT, 19 SK

 

So they needed to have a great year coming out of college to earn that coveted 4 year window. Maybe something like 4,700 yards passing, 46 TD's, averaging over 51 points a game and setting 27 NCAA passing records. You would think that a year like that would earn a 4 year window but no that was the year Andre Ware had when he won the Heisman trophy and the Lions drafted him #7 overall. Did the Lions give Ware that 4 year window? No because they saw that he sucked after a few games and he ended up in the CFL where he sucked there too.

 

Yes, they need to have a good enough last year, they have to perform, and have the body, physical tools for NFL. That's the evaluation test, whether they are worthy of a chance to compete for SB in the NFL, on rookie deal. You cannot give that chance to just anyone based on eye test.

(Andre Ware had poor completion percentage, borderline draftable, 63%, and was making too many bad decisions, 15 picks on 578 attempts. He need more training. Too many red flags. Not ready.)

 

Will Howard what?

 

Mason is best, right where he is.
He's like a decent closer, only you only need him once in a while.

 

He started 18 games

 

Off the bench

 

Evaluation is every day in practice

 

In order to dumb this down enough for you it might help if you told us what grade you are in at school

 

The level of specificity that he is looking for makes my head hurt. It reminds me of filling out the census last month.

 

I imagine in this case, all 22 starters, in fact, do start off the bench since that is where they sit before the game.

The NFL is in the business of winning. They like the W's.
The NFL is also a "What have you done for me lately" sport.
It is said that N-F-L also stands for "Not for Long"
So I don't know about a "4-year window" - maybe someone should tell Kenny that.

 

Maybe this will help you

Just click on the blue part

PRO CAREER

• Career regular-season record as a starter: 9-8-1 (.528)

https://www.steelers.com/team/players-roster/mason-rudolph/

 

How about 6-foot-3, 220 pounds, 497 attempts, 67.2%, 4,319 yards. 42 TD, 7 INT in a final year of college ball?

 

Teams don't commit to giving rookie quarterbacks four-year windows as a starter, at least not any more.

 

can we get this to 100 pages????? Let's go!

 

Yeah, I don't know where that guy got his info from. Knute Rockne's - 'The Dummy's Guide to Football'

 

How many sacks

 

Do you trust the coaching staff to develop a QB?