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T.J.'s Tinted Visor

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Formerscribe, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I get it. The truth bothers you.
     
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  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    It isn't going to come out because nobody involved wants it to come out. Watt wants to play. The team wants the public to believe they care about public safety. The league wants the public to believe they care about player safety. The Steelers are ducking the tough questions about this and the league won't hold them accountable. That doesn't mean they aren't guilty and it certainly isn't a mole hill. Playing football with a concussion is extremely dangerous. There is a high risk of permanent brain injury or death. Somebody gave him a tinted visor to help with his light sensitivity, which is a symptom of a concussion. If a player takes a blow to the head and has any concussion symptoms, they are supposed to be done for the day. Did you think what happened to Shazier was bad? Watt's fate could have been a hell of a lot worse and it would have been due to negligence by the Steelers.
     
  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    It is a bad look by Steelers
     
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  4. SteelerGlenn

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    You’re completely off the reservation guy. Why do you get yourself so worked up over stuff that you don’t even know if it’s true or not.
     
  5. SteelerGlenn

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    It’s not the truth that bothers me. It’s the manner in which you act.
     
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  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking at the available facts while you stick your head in the black and gold sand. The Steelers are doing what every other NFL team does. They are ignoring the signs of concussions so they can keep their players on the field and maintain plausible deniability. They are not unique. We saw the Dolphins do it even more blatantly with Tagovailoa last year. Teams know they won't be held accountable. The league already weathered the storm of a class action lawsuit and didn't pay out nearly as much as they should have done, so they have little fear of the repercussions. Either you really are determined to keep your head in the sand or you just haven't been paying attention to this issue the way I do.
     
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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The way I act is in service of the truth.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, and a dangerous one.
     
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  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    This is pretty dumb even for you
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Nonstory :shrug:
     
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  11. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    You should advocate for a first of its kind bubble wrap league. Skip the flag football and just go all in. These players make hundreds of millions of dollars and know the risks. Watt knows his body and brain better than Tomlin. Putting visor on doesn’t automatically point to a concussion.
     
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  12. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    They always talk about an "independent neuro-consultant" or some such term. Are they even necessarily doctors?
     
  13. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I can only hope and pray the Steelers organization do the right thing when it comes down to evaluating
    injured players.
     
  14. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Not at all. I'm just not getting worked up over what if's and maybe's
     
  15. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    This was my original point
     
  16. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    If it's proven that they done something wrong I'll be pissed, but until then I'm not getting worked up about it.
    And what's your obsession with concussions? Are you Mike Webster's illegitimate kid or something? The CTE warrior?
     
  17. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Most football players think they are invincible. They have to feel that way to do what they do. That doesn't mean they have a realistic view of the situation. Also, people with concussions are unable to think clearly. Their judgement is compromised.

    Switching from a clear visor to a tinted one without an eye injurie indicates light sensitivity, which is a symptom of a concussion. By rule, a player who is takes a blow to the head that leads to them being checked for a concussion must be removed from the game if they show any signs of concussion. Watt showed them and he was allowed to play, anyway. The independent neurologist and the Steelers' medical and equipment staffs bear responsibility for this. To an extent, so does Tomlin because it seems as if he intentionally avoided any real knowledge of the situation so he could have plausible deniability.

    This isn't about putting the players in bubble wrap, which was just you making a straw man argument. Football players are going to get hurt. They are going to suffer significant injuries, including concussions. That doesn't mean allowing them to try to play through brain injuries is acceptable. Do some research. Educate yourself before you post next time.

    By the way, Watt is now saying he was cleared, but he also got pissed off and refused to answer questions about switching to the tinted visor. If there was a good explanation other than light sensitivity that should have taken him out of the game, he had the opportunity to present it there. He didn't. The refusal by the team and the player to answer the relevant questions is telling.
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    I've read quite about about the topic, including some harrowing versions of what CTE did to Webster. I did meet his son, who ended up trying to take care of his father when he was just a teenager. Your lack of compassion for Webster and the people who cared about him is noted.

    That is very convenient to stick your head in the sand until something is proven knowing that none of the people involved will investigate. It is in all of their best interests to avoid finding the truth, so they won't look for it.
     
  19. SteelerGlenn

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    You’re nuts
     
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  20. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    This is why I wrote what I did about you being an apologist. You won't even consider that the Steelers and the league screwed this up and put Watt at risk because you don't want it to be true. They are no different from the rest of the league. They talk about player safety, but ultimately, they do not care about it. Their history backs my claim. Also, I educated myself on the topic. You have chosen ignorance and lame arguments ad hominem.
     
  21. SteelerGlenn

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    I’m sure it could be true. But until it’s proven I’m not getting worked up about it. That’s all. For some reason you think that I believe the Steelers can do no wrong. Not even close to being true. I’m a dude posting on a message board I have no insider knowledge of what the hell happened with the concussion protocol during that game. I have no way of finding out other than reading someone else’s opinion on the Internet.

    I especially love the part where you educated yourself on the topic. You read some stories on the Internet bro. Give me a break. You didn’t beat the streets and go all investigational journalist and talk to the sources personally. You read some stories on the Internet and you’re acting like a complete nut.
     
  22. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I know I have called you a hall monitor in the past for some of your posts and you really toned that down as of late. This formerscribe is acting lawyerish to an extreme over a minor visor change. Watt says he’s good . Move on. Time will tell if he’s jeopardizing his health or not. He’s a big boy and came to that conclusion and so did the organization. Time to move on. I currently work in a power plant where there are dangers everywhere. I’d hate to have Formerscribe as the safety manager. Literally nothing would get done.
     
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  23. SteelerGlenn

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    Watt has wore that dark visor before. Assume he has the medical clearance or permission from the league necessary to do that. Could it be a coincidence that he changed it during the game or could it be that he was trying to hide the fact that he had a possible concussion? I don’t know and nobody on here knows. It’s perfectly fine to question it or discuss it but Scribe is acting like an irrational nut job about it. Let the investigation out and see what comes of it before getting all worked up about it. But no anytime the word concussion is mentioned for some reason this dude goes all ape**** . He’s made up his mind that the league has done something wrong. Like I said very irrational
     
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  24. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I have done a lot more than read a few stories on the internet. When I say I did my research, that doesn't just mean the first couple of articles that popped up in a Google search. Journalism is research-based writing. I did this for a living. I wrote about concussions when I was still in journalism, so yes, I did interview medical professionals, trainers, coaches, and athletes. I have read about it extensively online, including peer-reviewed medical journals. I have read multiple books on the topic. I have done the work on this topic while you have shoved your head deeper in the sand, bro.

    You have proven yourself to be an apologist for the team in the past and now you want to ignore the available evidence and the fact that the Steelers are refusing to answer relevant questions about the way they handled Watt's injury. Now you want to conveniently hide behind the fact that it isn't going to be proven because the people with access have no interest in doing the proper investigation. Maybe the media will do a better job than it usually does on this issue, but most likely, it will be forgotten after Saturday's game. At least I hope that is the case. The only reason it wouldn't be is if something happens to Watt.
     
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  25. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    I’ll break down this load of crap later but simple question. What if there’s absolutely nothing to the story?
     

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