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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel machine, Dec 11, 2023.

  1. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Marvin Lewis is a perfect description of who T is. He got off to a great start to his career in his first 5 years thanks to inheriting a team ready to contend... granted he DID get it done once and got back another time but after that he's been Marvin Lewis. It just is who he is. Time to go.
     
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  2. SteelHack

    SteelHack Well-Known Member

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    Always win


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  3. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    If you wouldn't trust MT's judgement in running/ hiring his staff, why would you continue to trust his judgement at running the team? How many more OC's we going to go through that were blamed for our offensive failures? How stale can something get after 17 years and how can it be made not to be stale any longer? JMO>
     
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  4. sjromano

    sjromano Well-Known Member

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    First off, I would never... ever... root for my Steelers to lose. Regardless of the scenario. Period.

    That being said, the tone is set from the top in this organization. Whether that's AR2, or MT, or whomever. You can blame the OC, DC, the players for not executing - fine. But if you're entire strategy is structured around "let's just hang around until the waning moments of the 4th quarter, and then we'll either pull something out or have the ball bounce our way for a W"... well, you may win games in the regular season, but you won't go far. Doesn't that sound familiar to what we've been seeing for a bunch of seasons now?

    Who was it that said our (current) offense wasn't built to come from behind? What kind of crap strategy is that?
     
  5. nor

    nor Well-Known Member

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    We’re still going to reach our goal of a non losing season. What’s the problem?
     
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  6. Trafalgar

    Trafalgar Well-Known Member

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    These last couple of weeks have made me finally lose patience i'm on the Tomlin out bandwagon now. I've kept hoping he could lead a contending team, but he can't. Whatever he had he's lost it. It's always been pretty nebulous to define what he actually brought to the table, but every week and every season, he goes back to the kitchen and brings back an armful of nothing.

    At best it's half a season of winning games in smoke and mirrors fashion, before the mirage fades and everything falls to pieces.
     
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  7. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

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    Glenn, the issue that people have is when folks begin to criticize or question Mike, the media immediately rally with that as the soundbite as if that is the end all be all and almost with smugness or arrogance of "How you can possibly question Mike Tomlin". That's what rubs people the wrong way. Yes Mike has never once as far as I know offered that quote up, its just the media that don't watch every single game and snap to see what is happening over and over. Watch the circus that starts if and when Mike either retires or is fired, the media will jump on the whole lack of minority head coaching positions. Pittsburgh will almost certainly feel the pressure to hire a minority coach again (and no Jeh that's not a racist statement as you have accused me of before on this exact issue). I don't care what color the next coach is, just get the best damn offense oriented coach you believe you can find after completing a thorough search. Whomever that is let's get that going before we waste Minkah and TJ's remaining quality years. $12.5m is worth eating considering how much the organization makes if Tomlin won't go. Frankly, Tomlin should have the decency to retire. He's made a kings ransom from the Steelers so they have done right by him.
     
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  8. Steelhammer92

    Steelhammer92 Well-Known Member

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    Longstanding mediocrity pays in the sports business world. All those years without a losing record meant fans always had hope and kept paying $$$ to witness a contender. Tomlin has been a dream to the Rooneys. Nevermind the fact the early years were carried by Lebeau, and the rest of the time carried by Ben... Tomlin's teams for the past 13 years were never a disaster, but never quite good enough either.. and that **** sells.
     
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  9. mytake

    mytake Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Chuck Noll retire because Dan Rooney wanted him to fire some assistant coaches? The same scenario is staring Art II in the face. The problem is Tomlin cannot develop coaches, so Art II needs to ask Kahn and Weidl who are on their list for assistant coaches.
     
  10. pastorbob

    pastorbob Well-Known Member

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    we lose to ratbirds and mighty mike is fired o.k. We win and the ratbirds kidnap mike and we refuse to pay the ransom , great. prefer a win but mike getting fired is a bigger win.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    This is so stupid, you really think Tomlin cares about that non losing seasons stat :rolleyes:.
     
  12. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    Right now, having a higher draft pick is more important, so I am cheering for losses.
     
  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    It's not like they're getting a top 10 pick, if you're cheering for losses then you're not a real fan :facepalm:.
     
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  14. Steelvision

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    i'm rooting for the steelers to win regardless of the circumstances (can't bring myself to do otherwise), we might catch fire you never know (unlikely as that seems). However, Tomlin and his staff need to go, even if they reach the postseason. Staff have shown their ineptness by having one of the worst offenses in the league in spite of the talent, released players are doing well elsewhere, and even the defense has lapses. inexcusable losses to bottom dwellers has been too frequent over the years and these last two weeks really broke the camels back imho. the backup QB situation is a hot mess and the starter has been hampered by released OC's flawed scheme. Everyone else is playing chess while were playing checkers - time to get a new HC and staff and catch up.
     
  15. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    This team is awful and now fairly injured as well. Nobody has to root for them to lose they do it perfectly fine themselves. In terms of making the playoffs??? Give me a break. The real question becomes what happens with MT after the season? Fired Retire Extension? Will be interesting to see how in touch AR is but I’m not very confident.
     
  16. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's not even certain apologist fans doing it that much. It's the media drilling it every damned year as if it's a badge of honor that many bristle against.

    A "non-losing" season might be good if you're a fan of a miserable, bottom shelf franchise. But we're fans of the Steelers. The standard for success is championships. Or at least, it used to be. Hearing praise about another 8-8. 8-8-1, 9-8 type season just shows how far we've fallen that it's now the benchmark.
     
  17. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  18. AtlSteel

    AtlSteel Well-Known Member

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    Always choose beating Baltimore.
     
  19. Lambert

    Lambert Well-Known Member

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    Tomlin should have been fired five years ago and that's been made increasingly more obvious every year since. There's no magic place where 7-10 gets the Steelers a new head coach but 9-8 doesn't because the owner doesn't seem to care about the game results.
     

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