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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Animus, Nov 22, 2023.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    But Reid is a top 3 head coach according to you....This is just that you don't think that coaching is important in football

    Of course,talent matter,but coaching matter too...It take both!
     
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  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    context matter

    In his first two years with the 49ers, the 49ers were in a true rebuild....They were still competitive in the majority of games despite that, especially on offense. Shanahan has often been in the super bowl with Jimmy G and almost been with him again in 2021 and who knows what would have happened if he had a QB in the game against the Eagles last year....In 2016, Matt Ryan was a MVP with Shanahan as OC and Ryan wasn't the same after that
     
  3. TWISTER

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    Trust me, I hate the whole just having a winning season just as much as anyone, but what is the prize for just winning a playoff game? Bottom line is that anything less the winning the Super Bowl is a wasted season.

    I mean look at the Bills that went to Super Bowl in 91,92, 93 and 94. And they still have yet to win a Super Bowl. 12 teams have never Won the Super Bowl. 4 teams has never even been to the Super Bowl.

    Moral of the story is that at least Tomlin has 2 Super Bowl appearances and most importantly a Super Bowl Win. Bill Cowher had the same amount of appearances and wins. But everyone wanted him gone, but still yet the Super Bowl Tomlin won has always been considered to be because of Cowher players. So just maybe if everyone wouldn’t have gave up on Cowher he could have brought us more Championships.

    All Im saying is that sometimes you don’t know what you have til they are gone. We have been fortunate to have 3 HOF coaches, with these 3 coaches we are the 4th team with the most wins Knoll 209, Tomlin 177 and Cowher 161.

    Once again I’m tired of just not having a losing season, but I don’t think a new Coach is the answer, I think we are starting to make steps in the right direction. Weidl and Khan, Firing Canada. We are just missing a few pieces. We are a lot closer then what we would be if we started off with a new Coach.
     
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  4. TWISTER

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    And what exactly does making it to the Super Bowl get you and not winning it...Look at the Bills in 91, 92, 93 and 94....Made it to the big game and LOST and still have NEVER won a Super Bowl?
     
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  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Still a great accomplishment to make the super bowl 4 times in a row
     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yay participation trophies :rolleyes:
     
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  7. TWISTER

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    Is it a great accomplishment or pure embarrassment of not being able to win at least 1 out of 4 (The only 4 they have been to) Been almost 20 years and they still haven't been back.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And Your point??? He can still be a top 3 head Coach right now, and still never have won a SB without P. Mahomes. :shrug:
     
  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. The 49ers had just been in a SB 4 years before He was hired....complete rebuild My a$$
    ...., but people say Tomlin only won with Cowhers players...yet He went 3 years later , and 5 years later after Cowher, but K. Shanahan gets an excuse because He took over a team 4 years after they went to a SB. Can't have it both ways.
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Have You ever answered a question....ever??? I asked You a question a few day ago 3 times, and You never answered....you just made smarta$$ comments, and now when it's a question to someone else....You jump in, and still don't answer the question....you just make smarta$$ comments. I do believe it would be hard to know of a perennial 9-8 team. It only takes a bit of thought to realize why. Although since You never answer anyone's questions, and just make comments that have nothing to do with the questions....maybe....just maybe.....that is beyond you.:shrug:
     
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  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    Absolutely

    And fairly significant improvement if he is going to be the future

    Time to fish or cut bait
     
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  12. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Your ridiculous questions don’t deserve a response. No matter what my answer is you will disregard it and defend your boy.
     
  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    I have finished second twice in my time at Green Bay, and I don't ever want to finish second again. There is a second place bowl game, but it is a game for losers played by losers. It is and always has been an American zeal to be first in anything we do, and to win, and to win, and to win.

    Vince Lombardi
     
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    Um

    You did respond
     
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  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And you prove My point. LoL. You can't....Your that kid that takes Your ball, and goes home. LoL
     
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  16. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    More like steal your guitar laugh at you then go home.
     
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  17. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. That would never happen. LoL. I actually had that happen, and I after 7 months I found out who stole it. Needless to say, but I will anyway....He moved to another state...soon after a few meetings with Him. The F**king crackhead. LoL
     
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  18. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    You must have a nice guitar!
     
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  19. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Much better than missing the playoffs or being one and done in the playoffs...This is a major difference....
     
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  20. Steelersfan43

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    Going to the super bowl is never an embarrassment, especially when their last 3 teams they lost, they were all better than the Bills
     
  21. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    LOL...The two years before Shanahan was hired, the 49ers were 5-11 in 2015 and 2-14 in 2016...it wasn't the same roster as 2012 or 2013
     
  22. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    He was still a great head coach before 2018
     
  23. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    yeah Ben said that too he runs into trouble
    Sheesh
     
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  24. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    See the fake Mike Tomlin this week?
    Man he was on edge, very agitated.
     
  25. Michael E

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    One thing I remember well under Cowher, we blew a few teams out every year.

    I can't recall more than maybe one blowout win under Tomlin in the past 4 years. We've probably averaged under 1 blowout win per year over the past 10 years..unacceptable.
     

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