Coaching staff as a whole

Is there any coach worth retaining? Eddie Faulkner is probably the only coach I'd keep. Make him the run game coordinator and give him a pay raise, but other than him, I see nobody worth bringing back in 24. I'd vouch more for Danny Smith, but he's 70 and probably is bound for retirement anyways. Which leads me to Tomlin, does he really want to rebuild the entire staff? I'd think he doesn't want to; therefore he either retains the bulk of the staff, or he ultimately retires/resigns. I'm actually learning towards the latter. It just feels like the perfect time for the Steelers and Tomlin to go their separate ways.

 

Tomlin ain’t going no where.

 

glenn thomas probably has the longest resume of any of them as an OC. where has he been in all this?

 

Near as I can tell, Aaron Curry has done a nice job

 

And most on here said Canada wasn't getting fired mid-season.
Change happens. We've been through numerous OC's now. We've had very little playoff success.
I can't help but think that Tomlin is on a short leash. Things have to change or he will likely be gone as well

 

Some of us can only hope. Tomlin did his time and it high time to move on.

Some will cry. I won't. Stale. That describes Tomlin. We will see how the whole offensive coordinator position pans out and if Art II gives him an extension. Trade him for a couple of 1st round picks would be great.

 

MT for a couple first round picks my gosh could you imagine?? Would be the greatest day in Steelers history.

 

Grady Brown DB coach
Karl Dunbar DL/OLB coach

 

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Really depends on what happens the rest of the year. If they miss the playoffs, or get blown out in the 1st round as usual, I think he'll get the axe just like his buddy Canada did. At the very least, he'll be a sitting duck HC next year. At least I hope so

 

I seriously doubt if any team would be dumb enough to do that, I don't think he's worth it

 

So I’m just curious to know what the people on here would say if Tomlin gets fired and over the next 5 years we start seeing only 3-4 wins a season?

Trust me I’m the type that likes to see change, however I think finding Coaches are like finding needles in haystacks.

Everyone yelling fire Tomlin thinks that we will be Super Bowl bound with a new Coach.

 

I would hope Tomlin retires, for God's sake he's made enough and is multi generationally wealthy. What amazes me is that we have entire coaching staff that can't get personnel on the field 3 times in that game. Two where we had 12 men on the field and once where we only had 10 and ran the play. How is nobody seeing that from the box upstairs to the on field coaches? Attention to detail is key, plan for every contingency and drill these basic fundamentals into a team. This is just another example of how loose the team is coached. These guys are paid millions and can't this basic **** right. Jack Ham used to say Noll hammered the fundamentals and the mental aspect of the game. Mentally prepare so when the actual scenario arises you automatically react vs having to think about it. Woodson said the same thing about Cowher. Harrison said something similar about Bill B. With a young team you have to relentlessly drive perfection and you might just catch greatness.

 

We may or may not be Super Bowl bound with a new coach. That is unknown. What we do know is we are not Super Bowl bound with Tomlin as our head coach.

Tomlin got to two Superbowls early in Big Ben's career but the Steelers have slowly slid and declined into mediocrity since. It seems the 'standard' was lowered from Superbowls to just winning seasons. Tomlin doesn't have Big Ben anymore and now has to somehow develop a QB in an offense whose performance has been utterly atrocious.

I don't think he can adapt and pull it off. Tomlin is a defensive head coach (not even a great gameday coach) in changed league where most of the successful Head Coaches also have to be tactical and creative offensive minds. The QB position is disproportionally more important now.

Every coach has an expiration date and Tomlin is past his likely.

 

Everything....I mean everything I read about Tomlin written here... I read about Bill Cowher on the old board. People either forgot this, wasn't watching football then, or have seemed to forget, and they said it up to the time We won the SB.

 

Tomlin will not get the axe unless he does something or says something that completely turns ARII against him. Tomlin will either retire like Noll did, or resign like Cowher did. ARII will give Tomlin the choice. The streak of a HC not being fired will continue.

 

In other words, keep drafting QBs until to find the franchise QB. For me, Pickett has 7 games to prove he can be the guy, but his accuracy and reading defenses needs to vastly improve.

 

I agree, but I believe no matter what We think. He gets at least one more year. Unless of course He has a major injury.

 

There used to be a website called FireCoachCowher.Com, that listed in detail all his shortcoming. Loses to inferior opponents, failures in the playoffs, running a stone age offense in a passing era. All the stuff you here about Tomlin now. The website shut down after the SB win.

Today, Cowher is sainted. IF only we had him now! But, he was criticized up, down and sideways back in the day.

It reminds me of a joke: How many yinzers does it take to change a light bulb? Ans: 3, one to screw in the bulb, and 2 to reminisce about how great the old bulb was.

 

This exactly. LoL

 

I have to believe otherwise for my own sanity. Or I hope I'm wrong and Tomlin can turn this thing around, but as you know, I have zero faith in him as a coach. I don't care which it is, either I'm wrong about Tomlin or he is on a short leash, but I have to believe one of them is true or I don't know how many more years I can watch. I hate complacency. I hate it with a passion.

 

Maybe, just maybe, both are true. Maybe Cowher isn't this great coach like he is celebrated to be. Most if not all coaches in the NFL are good enough to ride a good team to a championship if things go their way. Get hot at the right time, face a team who struggles, face a team dealing with injuries, catch a few lucky breaks, etc.

Either way, I don't care about Cowher or any other coach. I don't compare Tomlin to anyone else. I judge him based on what I've seen since the day he was hired. I have no faith in the man to ever win another championship, unless he leaves Pittsburgh and goes to a team that's already a contender. In that case, I believe any coach can win, but not just any coach can build a winner.

 

Has anyone noticed how the great coaches with long tenures also tend to have hall of fame QBs? Keeping or firing Tomlin probably doesn't matter unless they get a franchise QB and a few other top notch offensive players. Our players on offense are average at best.

 

This wasn't so much a fire Tomlin thread it was more of both sides mutually going their separate ways. By the count of the board they'd only keep three coaches on this current staff out of maybe 18-20ish coaches. Obviously Tomlin would likely promote the DBC to DC and only replaces that position, and on the offensive side of this Faulkner and Mike Sullivan are likely retained and I really can't see any others coming back. So at best he probably would retain half of the current staff. I just doubt that he has the patience for all of that considering he has one year left on his contract.

And I'd like to put a Missing Ad on a milk carton for Glen Thomas... Where TF has he been all season.

 

What I can imagine is you blowing a gasket when your master plans blow up in your face