well here it is canada haters

So circumstantial with tenuous inferences.

 

This rarely happens when you see no progression between year 1 and year 2, especially if your year 1 was nothing special....

 

While I do agree that Kenny is likely being constrained by Tomlin, this doesn't change the fact that Canada's Offense has been called into question since he became the Offensive Coordinator. Just about every single opponent since 2021 (or 2020 in which Chase Young started this by stating that the team ran the same plays over and over) have stated the offense is so predictable. Execution no doubt also plays a part; a young Offense not just still trying to find itself but adjusting to new pieces yearly.


In short?! As some have stated, Tomlin does deserve some of the blame for allowing this to continue on as long as it has. However, to place the blame solely on him is disingenuous overall. Truth be told, the buck actually starts and stops with AR II.


Next Off Season is going to be very telling indeed.

 

There’s no real proof this is what’s going on. It wouldn’t be surprising though. And it would explain why Pickett’s best football has been played when trailing in the 4th quarter, when presumably the leash has to come off.

 

This is not new, maybe with the coaches he has now, but he has handcuffed other coaches in the past.

 

Sounds like my workplace

joking aside, Mike doesn’t know enough about the offense to really get into the details of what they should do. I’m sure his input is more on the defensive side.

 

He knows enough to be dangerous, not to other teams but to his own.

 

It can also mean turn into 8-3, but I’m sure you’re going to say it’s only because we played against backup QBs

 

I picked Steelers to lose these 2 games --I hope they prove me wrong

 

It generally takes time for QB's to develop in the NFL. KP is in the middle of his 2nd season. KP's 3rd season is where the Steelers will probably make the final call/decision.

QBs and players in general have what it takes to thrive and last in the NFL or they don't. The Steelers have provided KP with an environment to be successful. KP needs to eventually take the next step as a player regardless of HC or OC.

 

That's not going to happen they need to change the OC in the offseason.

 

I do believe that Tomlin wants assistants and coordinators that won't question him. I also think it's fairly apparent to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the game that Pittsburgh's offense is rather vanilla, so I don't think Dulac is breaking any new ground here. In this instance I will begrudgingly side with Tomlin because I don't have the benefit of seeing Pickett in practice every day. Despite how bad the offense has been it's difficult to make an argument while the team is sitting at 6-3. It also could very well be that Kenny appears to play tight much of the time. He plays like he's afraid of making a mistake which I think is the very reason he makes some of the curious decisions he does. What the hell would it hurt to cut him loose? Tomlin's record of never having a losing season comes to an end? Who cares? Maybe the most meaningless such "record" in the league. Let's say they make the playoffs. Does anyone really believe in their heart of hearts that this teams stands a chance against KC? Hell yeah, I want them to make the playoffs. But I'd like to think they'd at least have a puncher's chance. The way this offense operates? You can't play every game expecting to go in to the fourth quarter at a one or two possession deficit. Let the kid cut it loose and let the chips fall where they may.

 

it will prob have something to do with it, if it happens

 

I can imagine them being in a wild card game and keeping it close for the game. Then pulling ahead by 2 points with a late Boz field goal where Tomlin takes the points instead of going for the win. Then with 85 seconds remaining they allow the other team to get within field goal range for a 54 yard try where it's all coin flip. Could be a win could be a loss but it will test your BP for you.

 

Average Wonderlic score of NFL starting quarterbacks 24
Kenny Pickett’s Wonderlic score 17

I think Pickett’s football IQ is in question and that’s at least part of the reason that Tomlin has a tight leash on him and Canada’s scheme is so simplistic. I don’t want to make too big of a deal out of a standardized test, but there is a reason NFL teams have been using it for decades now. And Kenny doesn’t have any freakish athletic traits that enables him to overcome his inability to process quickly and diagnose effectively, which are a couple of components of the Wonderlic. After initially being all in on Kenny, my concern about his ability to be the next guy continues to grow.

 

Where there is smoke. DLB mentioned years ago about mt stepping in and trying to put in his Tampa 2 defense with the wrong type of players. He wanted DLB to have them play more man with zone corners. That was from DLB. Butler said by the end he was just a figurehead. There were other writings over the years and I'm not digging for them to appease you. You believe what you want.

 

Coaches have a big hand in whether a QB makes it or not. A talented QB can be ruined in the wrong system/wrong coach. Or a talented qb can be saved in the right system; Steve Young’s career was saved by Bill Walsh

 

Totally ignoring the 6-3 vs. first string qb's.

 

Of course they do. Players can always improve. However... Has our QB improved? Is there anything he's done that makes you think that he will? I really hope he does, but all I got is a hope and a prayer

 

I still say the main reason Canada is on the sideline is so Mike Tomlin can have more of an influence over what Matt Canada is doing.

 

I think the decision is already made. As long as they have a winning record with Pickett, he'll be the guy. The standard is the standard

 

Yes, I want them to make the playoffs. Can’t win in the playoffs if you’re not there.

 

If true, this actually makes me feel a bit sympathetic towards Canada, since it would literally mean that the primary role of the OC on this team would be to serve largely in the capacity of smoke screen / fall guy / scape goat for Tomlin, and to cover for his mistakes.

If true, I've no doubt that the coordinator would work in an advisory role in terms of trying to help Tomlin to proof read and/or script some plays, but that might literally be all that he does. It makes me seriously wonder if (again, if this is true) Canada preferred the booth because he wouldn't have to personally deal with Mediocre Mike.

 

You are right, but it's not quite as simple as that, at least IMO.
Last year when Trub was our started, Tomlin made some remark about playing not to lose. I can't recall the comment and I doubt I could find it now. It was in week 1 or week 2. He made some type of a comment implying we were going to be very conservative.

Tomlin isn't a dumb man. He knows football, but sometimes these guys think they're smarter than they are. They're also all egomaniacs and tend to be stubborn. That's par for the course with coaches. Once you get to a certain level, you tend to be arrogant.

I don't doubt Tomlin sets a conservative mindset within the organization. We've seen it many times over the years. He tends to play it safe. That still doesn't excuse Canada though. The play calls and the route designs are horrible a lot of the time. I have no faith in this offence, whether we play conservative or aggressive.

Yes, 6-3 is great, but it's not indicative of anything. When we were 11-0, did anyone seriously think we were a true contender? The year Tebow beat us, did anyone actually believe we were a contender that year? Record alone isn't indicative of much, other than wins and losses up to that point. This team is very, very flawed and I feel like we're just barely keeping our heads above water. I don't have any confidence in this team to truly compete.

 

THIS is all that needs to be said