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Mike Tomlin says there's going to be some changes

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelerGlenn, Oct 2, 2023.

  1. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    So, nothing to do with BA? So, Team good = credit the players. Team bad = fault of coaching. I don't think that's what your saying but we've had some incredible talent in the field and grossly underperformed. Not just once but for a decade. It definitely falls more on the inept coaching staff. I know it's beating a dead horse but I'm beyond tired of this sh!t.
     
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  2. S.T.D

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    I didn't say nothing, but When You bring in Brady a first ballot HOF, Gronk a first ballot HOF, Ab a could have been first ballot HOF, and 10 other pro Bowlers that weren't on the team previously well it does make it easier....., or do You think it's just coincidence that now since some of those players like Gronk, and Brady left Belichick that he having problems winning???
     
  3. jeh1856

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    Well yeah

    But having a great QB helps and not having one sucks
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    But they did bring them in

    And they did win
     
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  5. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    We had one, as well as the best WR and best RB in the game at the same time, yet the coaching staff pissed it away
     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  7. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Arians is known for his no risk it no biscuit offensive philosophy.
     
  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That defense looked like it was going to be special in 2020, then Bush and Dupree got injured.
     
  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The year before with Winston at QB Arians couldn't make the playoffs, now some fans want to tell us how great he is :shrug:.
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that happened when Dan was running the team, I don't recall that happening since Art ll took over.
     
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  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Why man. Our Rb was never the best in the game . He was good, but He was never best
    I brought this same thing up earlier. Bill, and Mike worked for different owners.
     
  12. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    You know nothing...I mean,only Jason Pierre-Paul make the pro bowl that year.Yes adding Tom Brady helped big time, same thing for Gronk even if he was not long in his prime, but many had predicted that the bucs were going to be a huge disappointment before the 2020 season(yes I remember that), but that was not the case
     
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  13. Steelersfan43

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    I prefer it that the current no risk no reward offense by the steelers in the last 3-5 years

    I may also be in the minority but Bruce Arians was a better OC than Todd Haley....I mean, if he would have had the same talent that Haley had from 2014 to 2017 and the same o-line and that Tomlin gave Arians the right to open up the offense (which was not always the case, even with Haley to be fair), it would have been incredible
     
  14. Steelersfan43

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    even if Bell was not the best in the game,he was a all-pro caliber RB 3 times(he make the first team all-pro twice and his best season in 2016,he was a second team all-pro and not the first because he had missing 4 games)
     
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  15. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Winston had 30 interception in 2019.....
     
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  16. S.T.D

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    Are You counting that the guy that took over for Him while He was missing led the league at rushing while He was gone. Ben, the OL, and Wrs had most to do with Bell success. If not how did D. Williams lead the league in rushing while He was taking His place, or Connor look so great before our line got so bad???
     
  17. S.T.D

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    If that was Here it would be blamed on the coach....yet elsewhere its blamed on the Qb.
    LoL. I know its seems like I'm messing with You, but Im just carrying on the conversation.
     
  18. S.T.D

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    I also liked Arians, but as is famous for Steelers fans....it's always the coaches. It's why We for example fired a few of our OCs ,and have seen them win SBs after they left..because some can't blame players. They know just better. Kevin Gilbride, and Arians come to mind instantly.
     
  19. steel machine

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    And became oldest Head Coach to win a Super Bowl.:facepalm:
     
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  20. S.T.D

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    LoL. You better look again. I said pro Bowlers they brought in. You going to tell me only one guy they brought in had ever been to a pro bowl???
    LoL. I guess Ab, Gronk, Fournette, and Ryan Succop don't count just for starters??
     
  21. pczach

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    That was 2019. Winston threw 30 interceptions and had 12 fumbles that season. That's a little difficult to overcome when he's your best quarterback.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WinsJa00.htm
     
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  22. Steelersfan43

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    Winston has always been a turnovers machine way before 2019...Even in college
     
  23. Steelersfan43

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    AB was a non-factor in 2020 for the bucs, especially in the playoffs(he did not play vs Packers), Fournette was released by the jags and it was not because of his salary and who cares about the kicker...Brady and Gronk were of course huge but don't rewritten the history since many thought that the bucs were going to be a disappointment before the 2020 season
     
  24. Steelersfan43

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    I'm not saying that Pickett is good since that's not the case, I wanted the Steelers to wait until 2023 to take a QB in the draft before 2022 but for Canada, he never had his moment....It never worked, the steelers are just stubborn to keep him after 2 mediocre seasons...Even Fitchner had some good times as OC...What was Canada's good times on offense since he was our OC?

    No,when Ben called the play in another playbook in the fourth quarter during the 2021 season when the steelers were behind or tied for like 15 games, that doesn't count for me!
     
  25. Steelersfan43

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    I'm not saying that Pickett is good since that's not the case, I wanted the Steelers to wait until 2023 to take a QB in the draft before 2022 but for Canada, he never had his moment....It never worked, the steelers are just stubborn to keep him after 2 mediocre seasons...Even Fitchner had some good times as OC...What was Canada's good times on offense since he was our OC?

    No,when Ben called the play in another playbook in the fourth quarter during the 2021 season when the steelers were behind or tied for like 15 games, that doesn't count for me!
     
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