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  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...p&cvid=4e47fbadbc9540b9800ff225aafc0787&ei=10

    not that it will happen but should they consider doing this? i sure wouldn't, heck i'd try to extend him. one injury and we would cut our own throats. peterson won't be around forever either. wallace is pretty solid. yes we have porter and sullivan and peterson and trice but his play will be huge in a run to the playoffs and not just this year hopefully. i don't think it would be smart to take what may be a strength and make it a weakness. :cool:
     
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  2. jeh1856

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    I’ve started to associate any article by Noah Squeakbean to be a pile of :bscow:

    Just so he can pretend to be someone he takes the most worthless tidbit and pretends he’s having the greatest thought in sports
     
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  3. Steel_Elvis

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    I think Wallace is a solid backup, and a below average but serviceable starter. I would try to extend him if we can sign him to backup CB money.
     
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  4. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    after a while in the league you find a guy who fits a role and is comfortable with that. Not saying it is levi, just generalizing. Every guy wants their opportunity and you want that fire within them, but not every guy has the talent to be a star, let alone a starter. To say you can find these guys anywhere is just not true, so yea if they feel he is 'that. guy you make an offer and try to keep him around.
     
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  5. CK 13

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    Wallace is experienced and I believe will be a starting. Only 5.4 M this season. Not much. An extension I would be in favor of.

    Every analyst has stated that Peterson has lost a bit of a step not being able to cover on the outside. His vet savvy and high footfall IQ still makes him a solid player. He will be in the HOF.

    Porter Jr has not taken a snap in the NFL.
     
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  6. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    Peterson could extend his career as a versatile DB. What if Fitz and Peterson could play in the box or FS interchangeably? We might see this in 2023.
     
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  7. AskQuestionsLater

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    P2 has been alluding to this on his PodCast "All Things Covered" for quite some time now. Having both Joey Porter Jr and Cory Trice Jr fast track themselves into a starting role or at least in a starting based capacity will benefit Pat Pete in the long run. For that matter, doing so will greatly enhance Pittsburgh's ability to lock down both Number One and Number Two Receivers respectively.


    Now, miscommunications and missed assignments can happen (remember that both are Rookies) but with hopefully the Front Seven is more than capable enough of wreaking enough havoc to make such instances minimal in terms of impact.
     
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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    Regarding the team potentially trading Levi Wallace as of now?! I don't expect that to happen as it is still too early to know if Joey Porter Jr can man the other Outside Corner spot at present. Besides, nothing really is going to be known until Training Camp which is a little over a month away from now. If there are any moves to be made by then, Alex Highsmith's Contract Extension happens first.


    Among all moves currently the Steelers must make, that needs to be tops on the list. Depth Chart projections can be settled at a later point in time; namely during Training Camp where it aspects such as skills and abilities can be more fairly judged.
     
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  9. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    I like Levi, and if they can extend him for cheap then great.

    However, he is 28 and he is what he is, nothing special...if someone was going to offer a decent pick for him I'd trade him. His skillset is replicable.
     
  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    It is replaceable but not so at this time.


    Still too early to decide if Joey Porter Jr is ready to man that spot. For that matter, Teryl Austin had been asked about how soon can we see Peezy Jr on the field. Here is what he had to say;


    "So, you look at those two things (understanding your role and playing fast) and then there's usually a moment where you just go, ‘okay, I think this guy is ready,’ and you're ready to throw him in, and understand he may take some lumps with him at some point, but then he'll grow through those lumps," said Austin on behalf of when Joey Porter Jr. will be ready. And, I've had that, my first year in the league we drafted Marcus Trufant, and he ended up starting right off the bat. When I was in Arizona my next stop, we drafted Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and it was the same thing, he started off the season as a third corner and I think it was about Week Six it got to the point where you said, ‘hey, listen I think this guy is ready,’ even though we know there's going to be some growing pains, but he's ready. And like I said he had a better understanding in five, or six weeks... he had a better understanding, he had a better feel for the NFL game, and it was time to let him go. And I don't know when Joey's time is going to be, but when it comes, I think we'll know." - Teryl Austin



    A bit old fashioned?! Perhaps but not every Rookie CB can come in and dominate like Ahmad Sauce Gardner does. Remember that Pittsburgh already tried working a Rookie CB out early in Artie Burns way back in 2016. That resulted in five total touchdowns allowed by him and he never fully recovered from that.


    If anything... Artie Burns' lack of Progression was likely a major point of emphasis in hiring Teryl Austin in the first place despite 2019 being Burns' final year in the Black 'n' Gold. I don't think Mike Tomlin is going to want to take another chance with the likes of JPJ; same goes for Cory Trice.
     
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  11. Formerscribe

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    This is clickbait nonsense. Trading Wallace at this point would be stupid.
     
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  12. Brice

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    Need to see him in a game, even if it is a Pre Season game.

    Remember 3rd round pick Justin Layne? He was the talk of camp and everything was looking like the Steelers had found their Starting CB, and then one start in a preseason game and the dream was over. It is funny even Layne admitted after the game that it was a rough one and he still had a lot to learn. The Steelers sent Layne to the special teams, and he was basically never heard from again.

    So, don't go to crazy on rushing Porter and Trice into the starting lineup until you see them play a few games. Right now Levi Walace is the starting CB until he gets beaten out by Porter.
     
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  13. AskQuestionsLater

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    Hm?!


    I am merely referring to what P2 would elect to have. Me personally, I want both JPJ and Cory to earn their stripes. I have been consistent with this thought process since the day the team drafted both.


    As you said with Layne, too early. For that matter, Artie Burns Jr is the best example of what can happen if you set your young CB up for failure. I doubt Tomlin is going to make that mistake again with JPJ; doubly so in Teryls case.
     
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  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    He is what he is. A good quality depth cb. That can't be lost this season. Maybe next.
     
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  15. CK 13

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    Well said. You have an aging vet and 2 rookies. Wallace is solid enough to start. And will.
     
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  16. nor

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    If we had the same awesome ability to draft quality CBs like our track record with WRs....imagine THAT for a minute.....
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    Funny Cowher played LB, and could draft them well, Tomlin played Wr, and can draft them well.
     
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  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    see i don't get all this concern that we got rid of sutton and levi is considered just a backup. sutton i liked and would have liked to keep him but, levi gave up one less TD on the year.

    levi wallace had a 53.2 completion percentage against. 77 targets 41 completions, 3 TD's, 4 interceptions, 48 tackles, in 9 game starts, 709 defensive snaps, 76% of the defensive plays.

    cam sutton had a 47.9 % completion rate, (best of his career), 73 targets, 35 completions, 4 TD's, 3 interceptions, 43 tackles, in 15 game starts, 931 defensive plays, 94% of the snaps.

    those are starter numbers wallace is putting out there. peterson had a catch against percentage of 59.6%. 5 interceptions. gave up 5 TDs. 89 targets, 53 completions. 66 tackles in 1105 snaps, 95% of the defensive plays.

    levi sure doesn't seem to get enough credit for what he brings. you don't just let those players walk, especially after you just let sutton walk. we have no idea what these rookies will do. you let witherspoon go, you let sutton go, we must keep around some semblance of a vet presence back there. sure we hope the newbies take off but you don't put the cart before the horse by cleaning out everything that was good. we led the league in turnovers last year. he was second on the team in that department and played a lot less snaps. pay the man. :cool:
     
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  19. Brice

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    I liked everything you said until the very, very, very end "pay the man. :cool:"

    I didn't know Wallace was wanting to renegotiate his contract this year. Or are you just talking about the $4 million in savings we get if we trade or release Wallace?

    Right now Wallace is on the books for $5.5 million for 2023 and to me that sounds about the right amount to pay Wallace this season.
     
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  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I should have said extend him. By that I mean keep him here. 28 is not that old. He doesn't have the wear and tear on him that guys that were full time starters since they have been in the league have. I like him to guys that worked their way through and we kept around like Willie gay and deshea Townsend and they ended up being great fill in starters and then starters. He is a guy that we know can play. A draft pick we don't know. He has more worth than a draft pick.:cool:
     
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  21. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    You definitely have to keep Him around this year. No freaking way You take a chance.
     
  22. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    If someone is going to overpay for Wallace like they did Claypool....he's gone and he should be.
     
  23. AskQuestionsLater

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    The question is who?!



    Reminder that teams usually have or are very close to filling up their rosters. Why trade for a player now whereas a team can wait until the final wave of cuts during the Pre Season?! Unless that player is of either star to Superstar quality, there usually is not much movement in that area during this time of the NFL Offseason.
     
  24. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Trouble is Wallace is a better starter than claypool and more valuable to us.:cool:
     
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  25. Brice

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    It is too early for me to pull the trigger on an extension for 2 or 3 more extra years.

    Steelers need to wait and see what Peterson does this year, and what the 2 rookies bring to the table. By next year Wallace will be 29 and may be your 3rd outside corner. If this happens there is no reason to not let him taste the open market at the end of the season.

    I will assume next years process will be the same add 1, free agent "Name" CB and add 1, 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.
     
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