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Players who won't be back in 2023

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I would keep Wallace he's like a #2 or #CB, his cap hit isn't that high, get rid of Jackson and Witherspoon. Try to re-sign Sutton, and draft a #1 type of CB, and bring Pierre back.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The TE from Notre dame will probably be a first round pick, they can't ignore the other needs on the team to draft another TE that high in the draft.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Maybe....Maybe not. A backup role on a Good team with a Young Qb is a great freaking job. Ask Batch.
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They will have some money to spend in free agency to fix the depth on defense.
     
  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Brown will be looking to get paid probably 20 million or more a year, you can forget about him to the Steelers.
     
  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Jack and Ogunjobi both make 8 million, I don't see them paying either of them that much next season.
     
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  7. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Mariota may be out in Atlanta if you’re rebuilding the QB room.


    Next season is looking to be a mess with QB depth, Oline and now Dline.
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Rudolph sees himself that way.
     
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  9. SteelerGlenn

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    Maybe, but probably time for a pay cut unfortunately.
     
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  10. SteelersFanIrl

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    Steelers can afford that if they want him, this is not the steelers of a few years ago that are pressed against the cap. They have a rookie contract QB and a lot of cap room to play with over the next three years. Their glaring needs can’t all be fixed in the draft, none more so than the left side of the offensive line. I’m not saying it is likely but Brown is absolutely an option if they want a plug and play solution at LT that can make the team better now. He is not elite but he is a monumental upgrade over Moore

    Possibly not but they don’t have enough players to put a roster together right now and they only have 6-7 draft picks. Everyone wants bargains in free agency but the truth is they are rare enough. What established NFL players at their positions are going to be out there for significantly less?

    As above they have a lot of cap flexibility right now that they simply haven’t had in the past. Of course they need to be prudent but the bottom line is that this is a poor roster with little depth and it’s going to cost money to fix it. They were more active than usual in free agency last year for that reason, and I expect that to continue.
     
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  11. Animus

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    The point of bringing them both back is that we need 1-2OL, 2-3DL, 2-3 QB's (if you want to have 4), 2 CB's and Edge Depth. You can't address all of that via the draft and FA even with close to $50M in cap space. Creating two more holes at ILB just doesn't seem feasible to me. I'd kick the ILB & SS can one more year and address the more serious issues first. If we didn't have the slew of even bigger needs, then I'd be all for replacing Bush, Jack and Edmunds.
     
  12. DJ18Baller

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    Steelers have so many needs it’s hard to even calculate a plan for the draft. To me Left Tackle MLB and CB are the three most glaring areas of concern. Hurts that we may have to take a MLB so early again the Bush Miss really set us back several years. Steelers have cap space but will Art III actually sign legit FAs or search in the bargain bins for guys like Mitch Jack and Jackson? Odds of those type of players being anything more than serviceable are unlikely.
     
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  13. Animus

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    We have to ask ourselves the question, besides Cam who on the DL is better than Jack and Bush. Only person that I can think of potentially is Leal (and that's based upon potential alone). DL starters and DL depth is far more important than ILB.
     
  14. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    That is scary to think but you may be right.
     
  15. Animus

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    Cam, Leal, Loudermilk, Adams.... That is our DL for '23 right now. Obviously, people will be added to the roster. O likely isn't coming back and Wormley was ok for depth but not someone I'd want to start. Getting Hargrave back would be great + a DL in one of the top two rounds would be even better. Our DL is Dire whist the ILB is simply meh. If the DL and CBs weren't in this position, I'd be all for moving on from Jack and Bush.
     
  16. DJ18Baller

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    Well if Bush and Jack are the starting MLBs again next year it’s not exactly inspiring much hope of the defense improving especially in run D.
     
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  17. SteelerGlenn

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    Jack and Bush don’t play on the defensive line.
     
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  18. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    No sh*t... I never said that they did.
     
  19. SteelerGlenn

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    Here’s what we need a decent second TE, a starting, defensive lineman, a true number one cornerback, two solid starting OL, a solid, third receiver, and a good NT.
    This could all happen in one off-season between the draft and free agency. More than likely it’ll take a couple of seasons to get things right.
     
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  20. SteelerGlenn

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    Really?
     
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  21. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    It's a comparison... I was saying who on the DL is better at their position is better than Jack and Bush at their position besides Cam... FFS your dumb
     
  22. Karl

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    Yeah, ILB plays a big role in a 3-4.
    Yes, a Gilbert Brown type NT would make even the current look better.
    But upgrades in speed is important.

    There has been talk of switching to 4-3.
    But in todays NFL, you don't spend a lot of time in the base defense anyway.
    And with the 4-3 you have to adjust the roster for the front 7 more.
    If it were me, I'd be looking at one of those innovative defensive minds that can supe up my 3-4. We look a little too predictable.
    Wade Phillips sucked as a Head Coach, but he could coach defense and I liked his 3-4 defense as much as I like Dick Lebeau's.
    Someone that thinks like those 2.
     
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  23. SteelerGlenn

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    Why would you compare someone on the defensive line to an inside linebacker?
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    You left a word out. The second player. A starting what? Also, do you mean a starting nose tackle and another starting defensive lineman?

    I don't understand listing a second tight end as a need, but not a starting inside linebacker. I don't understand all the talk of needing a tight end. Gentry and Heyward aren't anything special, but replacing Freiermuth's backups should be far down the list of priorities.
     
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  25. SteelerGlenn

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    I had an extra , in there. And you’re right I forgot about inside linebacker.
     

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