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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SC Gamecock, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Oh.
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    God.

    I didn't even finish reading the article. That is truly pathetic. And a truly stupid thing to say publicly. Especially when you're looking for Fitzgerald money. Could you imagine Larry Fitzgerald saying something like that? What does that say to potential employers next year? As if the lack of production and consistent butterfingers weren't enough, he has now admitted to being a complete prima-donna slacker.

    How can people be so stupid? Good luck getting Fitzgerald money next year Mike. You may not even seen Antonio Brown money. Its just amazing to me how people sabotage themselves.

    W-O-W!
     
  2. DSteelerCT

    DSteelerCT Well-Known Member

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    Bench his !@#, so tired of him...
     
  3. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

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    In my worst nightmare I could see myself going to work one day and be in a meeting saying "Well you see, It didn't seem as though I was involved enough throughout the entire project and when it came time for me to perform the duty necessary for the overall good of the company I just didn't have enough concentration to complete the task."

    Even if this were what I was thinking I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to outright admit it.

    No wonder he wants Fitz type money. Football is all he has going for him apparently. Thank god he didn't become a life guard.
     
  4. rukus4ever

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    Well, he has four games to either put up, or shut up. You have to be able to adapt, in this world, whether it's football, or anything else.

    I'm disappointed to hear him blame the offensive scheme for his shortcomings, this season.

    I hope he's learned the lesson he says he has. If he wants to keep playing football, then he's going to need to be both willing and able to grow beyond what he says he's going through.
     
  5. Dwinsgames

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    in short he is saying Haley's system is why he is dropping the ball /rolls eyes .............. all while he contends being targeted LESS times this year than any other year in his career but he is being targeted MORE not LESS targets I call


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  6. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Nice research. Factual evidence settles the debate. My problem with Wallace is summed up in this article. For some reason, he felt as though he was a top flight receiver in this league and negotiated with the Steelers that way. The fact is he is a toy, a serviceable receiver with blazing speed that can be a valuable, though unnecessary, weapon in the arsenal. I've said it before and will repeat it now. Mike Wallace thinks he's the second coming of Jerry Rice but he's closer to the second coming of Renaldo Nehemiah.
     
  7. Dwinsgames

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  8. Fe3CCity

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    I don't know I'd anyone took the time to rea it through but one thing jumped out at me was the last statement.

    "sometimes I have to remind them not to forget about me."

    Ive supported Wallace through this year and I most likely still will. But, those word dont help his case at all. Not only should they not have to be reminded of you, if you want Fitzgerald money, they should be looking for you. For him to think he is forgotten is maybe more telling then the production. Apparently, he isn't looked to get the first down or the tough yards.

    If this guy wants his pay day he needs to let us know that production drops without him.
    I think our number one is considered a number 1 only by his split end position.

    From,
    The Steel City
     
  9. lovembig

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    there are a few people around here that maybe wouldnt go as far as saying he is the next Jerry Rice, but tried like heck to make the arguement that he is the best wr on the team and thats why he leads the team in tds.

    like you said. hes a toy for the OC to play with, but he is by no means a complete or reliable wr. i would take AB and Sanders any sunday over Wallace. sure they arent as fast as Wallace, but who is. if it was all about speed than teams would be lining up to sigh Usain Bolt.

    its funny how some people have taken the criticism of Wallace as hate for him. i can see with my own 2 eyes what kind of player he is. i can see with my 2 eyes that he is loafing around on the field and doenst have any where near the same drive as AB, Sanders or Miller. its a shame really. Wallace has talent and could be very good, but he doesnt show the heart to be great.

    Wallace is not some irreplaceable piece to the puzzle for the Steelers as some would like to try and make an arguement for.
     
  10. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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  11. rukus4ever

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    I'm with you. I was holding out hope to keep all of Young Money with the Steelers. I see nothing but positives if they can all keep their heads together. AB and Sanders seem to be okay, but I am starting to have concerns about Wallace. Those concerns are only deepened, after reading that article. However, I am hoping that he has learned his lesson, as he states he did, during this season. I choose to remain positive about that.

    On the 12/6/2012 Talkin' Steelers Football on Steelers.com, Mike Prisuta from WDVE said he interviewed Mike Wallace. He said Wallace is putting his past issues in the past and will focus on doing what needs to be done, from here on out. Mike P. mentioned that Wallace and others on the team are focusing on the intangibles that Tomlin has been preaching. Hopefully for Wallace that means focus, on the field, and the production that we're used to...
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    "apologists" which doesn't offend me at all since I don't make excuses for Wallace, except when people want him to jump 50 feet into the air. But my point is, you implied in your previous post that it is necessary to call people out who have a different opinion then yours. BFT is my boy but there's no reason to preempt a post like that and is just opening a can of worms. I agree with Fear The Beard, it's not necessary. You guys are getting mad at people because they don't see things your way.
     
  13. 3carsteeler

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    If Wallace wants a big payday( won't come with the Steelers), play like your worth it. He should have taken the Steelers offer before the season. You never hear or heard Miller crying that he loses focus because he has to stay in to help block.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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    Wallace could learn a boatload from Heath. And yeah, he messed up bad, at this rate, he'll be lucky to sniff Browns contract.
     
  15. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Dude that is SOOOOOOO funny!!! LOLOLOL! If I didn't know I would say that it really was Slash!!! That rules!
     
  16. punkneater

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    It wasn't such a good idea blowing off training camp and pre-season now was it? You're lucky I'm not in charge of the Steelers, or you'd have been fired last summer. Suck it up and play hard!!
     
  17. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I agree that some, and by some I mean VERY few, try to argue that Wallace is some integral cog in the Steelers machine. Pointing this out however is frowned upon. I can seriously tell you everything that his defenders say but it's not nice to say what other people say. It is, however, nice to say it's not nice to say what other people are gonna say. So instead of saying what other people are gonna say I will just say that I think the things that you say are things that are true and I am glad that you are saying them. But hopefully the Rooney's have the final say but I don't want to say what I think the Rooney's will say because that would be rude for me to say. You know what I'm saying?
     
  18. blountforcetrauma

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    What did he mean by "past issues"? Were there things going on behind the scenes? Or just that he means he's trying to forget all the drops and stuff?
     
  19. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Dude I didn't mean to hurt people's feelings or whatever. The whole point of it is in context of the article. People have a right to be wrong and I fully support that. I was trying to make the point that eventhough he just basically sit there and blamed everyone else there will still be people that will defend this guy. You know I'm the biggest Worthless basher on this board and I am dang proud of it just as the biggest Wallace supporter should be proud of that. You know also that there are gonna be trolls that will just try and shoot down everything you say. You've been a big Tomlin supporter and you know that people are extremely combative and the other day there were posts with people calling other people out about NOT calling out AB and Sanders and singling out Wallace. Isn't that the same thing? But if they wanna do that I'm fine with that. I think that's a significant thing. I'm with you that Wallace had NO chance to catch the speeding bullet blimp that Batch threw him in the Rats game. Or the ball that hit the corners head in the clowns game. My criticism of Worthless is that he is NOT a well rounded player. He's NOT a big time gamer. He's NOT a good, crisp, route runner. He's NOT a good catcher. He's NOT a game changer. He's NOT a clutch player. He's NOT worth $100 million. I'm not mad at anybody. I can honestly say that I like everyone on this board. But I am not sorry for saying what his supporters say in context of what I had just read him say himself. People are grasping at straws to try and defend him. By that I mean they are looking back at times past to do it. Us that are criticizing him are looking at what he has done THIS year. That needs to be pointed out. There are many people that state controversial things and then immediately say "ok everyone kill me for what I just said". I don't think it's a big deal to say that. I think it's realistic to say that. If others disagree that's fine.
     
  20. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Wait are you saying that people DON'T say what I said they have been saying? Because if you go over to the thread about Wallace the other day that got kinda heated with people you will see that people were bringing up the things he has done in the past. So I'm trying to figure out what I said that wasn't true. There was even a video posted of a catch that he made in 2010. How is that not bringing up what he's done in the past? There was another post where people were trying to pimp stats from yesteryear. How is that not bringing up what he's done in the past? I'm just trying to figure out what you meant when you said that I said something that wasn't true because the truth is that I didn't. If you look at what I was referring to you will see that very plainly. I'm honestly a little peeved that you would say that I would basically lie. I mean that's kinda the vibe I got from what you said. Am I inferring the wrong thing?
     
  21. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I've highlighted what I was referencing as being 'not true' above.

    A)People are getting crucified on this board?
    B)The thread you are mentioning is of different context, and there certainly weren't 4 or 5 people "trolling hard" in the thread I think you're referencing.
    C)What good can come from bringing up quarrels from other threads? Why bring other threads into this one?
    D)When has Wallace ever said he wanted $100 Million? ;-)

    I never said you were a liar, but since you mention being peeved, the unnecessary hostility peeves me a little.
     
  22. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    There was a thread the other day where someone said they "knew they would get crucified" for whatever it was they were about to say. That's what I was referencing. There was another thread where IN MY OPINION someone was very combative and condescending to those detracting. I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same thread. Basically what I was saying is that Wallace is a hot button issue and when someone puts something about him it's gonna get hot. Which you have to say is the truth. In my opinion he's the new BA among the fans. As for the last part I was asking you a question. Which is "am I taking this the wrong way?" Honestly I felt like you were also hostile as well. I suppose it just depends on interpretation. Not that you MEANT to be but just that I TOOK it that way. I said the word "basically" to mean that if what I said wasn't "true" then it must have been a lie when interpreted by you. I was asking if that was what you meant to say. I didn't mean for it to be hostile but honestly if it was meant to be hostile I think that would irritate anyone and rightfully so. I'm not mad at you at all. But I will say this. People need to remember that you are the administrator of the board and if people don't like something someone is doing they need to tell you about it and not try and handle it themselves. I didn't know that I did anything to break the guidelines of the community or anything like that. It was a general statement that I felt was basically harmless. If I had thought that it would he that controversial I wouldn't have put it. It only seemed to bother a few people and wasn't some hot button issue. I've just seen lately that some times the POSTERS become more of an issue than the PLAYER in question and more often than not the two most controversial players are Wallace and Mendy. With that in mind I was saying that this would probably devolve in to a "how can you even post such a stupid thread" type of a thing and then the discussion becomes more about Gamecock than Wallace and his stupid statements. I say this from experience. Just go over and find that thread that I made about the guy insinuating that Plax seemed to play lazy because he had given up on Batch. I felt like I got hammered for that and it was basically a misunderstanding. So I feel like what I said was completely rational based on what I had even experienced my own self. Also Gamecock even said that he had noticed some people saying obnoxious things to posters too right? The whole "true fan" thing. If you go back and read the whole thing between me and Gamecock you will see that I even gave you props for calling someone out for trolling the other day.
     
  23. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Oh and about the $100 million thing there were reports that he wanted that kind of money and that he turned down $50 million. That's what I was referencing. It was over the summer so there's no way I could say the EXACT one but that's what I was referencing.
     
  24. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I don't really want to go into this any further as this poor thread has already been hijacked into oblivion. You know my pm box is always open, and I'm almost always around if you want to chat. :smiley1:

    The $100 million dollar stuff was a rumor. If you try to find a source for it, you'll be on a wild goose chase. The only "credible" source (someone who was working with Wallace) said it wasn't true.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter to me how much he may or may not have wanted. I just care about him helping this team win and catching balls while he's here, which is something he's had a serious problem doing this year. :facepalm:
     
  25. jenyeart

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    Let's start with this..."My criticism of Worthless is that he is NOT a well rounded player. He's NOT a big time gamer. He's NOT a good, crisp, route runner. He's NOT a good catcher. He's NOT a game changer. He's NOT a clutch player. He's NOT worth $100 million."

    In reference to this year, all of these statements are true. The whole $100 million may be overblown, but I would think that we are all extremely glad that AB was the one who accepted the $50 million and not Wallace. That's just too much money for someone who has turned into more or less of a decoy (and AB has proven to be much more of a complete receiver than Wallace...although he needs more work on getting open too). I will say that Wallace still draws double-coverage and can still go deep and stretch defenses...that is why they still have to scheme for him and why the "dink and dunk" has worked relatively well for us this year. I was really hoping Wallace would take less money and clean up his route running and dropsies problems to become the weapon he was meant to be. Unfortunately, this new story has probably cemented his ticket out of Pittsburgh. I really hope he doesn't end up torturing us as a Bengal or a Raven next year because he would definately make them FAR more dangerous.
     

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