Kenny vs Bradshaw/mahomes/brady/rodgers

The comparisons are going to naturally be there. But it's often comparing apples to oranges. The 70s were a completely different game. Hell in 76 the team wasc1-4, Bradshaw went down and a rookie named Mike Kruczek went 6-0. Helped that the D held the other teams to 0 points most games, 2 thousand yard runners and 2 Hof receivers. In his career ended up with 0 tds and 8 into lol.

 

One small problem with this. They didn't reach. I can understand thinking they should have addressed another position, but most, if not all, pre-draft rankings had Pickett in the first round.

 

I would like to see him keep his feet in a situation like that. He's a big strong guy. Be physical and run through the contact.

That said, it's not all on him because it really was pass interference.

 

The Refs on the field say it wasn't. I agree with them.

 

By that logic, no call is ever wrong. Anyone who thinks the refs on the field never get it wrong is truly lost.

By rule, it was pass interference. There is no question about this. Watch it again. The defender was not looking back for the ball. In that case, he cannot make contact that impedes the receiver, even if that is minor contact. That's the rule.

 

At the end of the day the pick belongs to Pickett, which really sucks. I think he threw a good ball there. I just went back and re-watched the play. I still think Claypool needs to keep his feet there. I will admit that is easy for us to say. But this sort of thing is an issue with Claypool.

 

It wasn't at all. I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of that play. First off, the DB did turn around. It is kind of hard to say a DB was face guarding on a go route. The contact itself was minimal and inadvertent. No way anyone on this board would is calling for that to be a penalty if the situation was reversed and the Steelers were on defense. It was a good no call IMO. The call on the field backs up my opinion.

 

I have never heard Bill Hillgrove get that irate before over that blown non PI call. Yes he's a Steeler homer but I never heard him that upset over a call before.

 

And the 2nd pick you have to wonder how much that was caused by his small hands and not yet used to throwing a wet NFL ball.

I think if he gets a good grip and zips that pass over to DJ, there is no Int.

 

You need to watch the play again. His head was not turned around when he made contact. Listen to how they explained the rule. It doesn't matter that that the contact ws minimal or if it was inadvertent. That may be unfair, but that's the rule.

It is not a good no call if it fails to uphold the rules. As Blast pointed out, it doesn't take much of a trip to send someone running fast to the ground.

If it had been called interference against the Steelers, I would have been angry until I heard the explanation, then I would have realized the flag was justified.

 

That thought crossed my mind as well. We are heading into November now. Plenty of weather games ahead. It will be interesting to see if this becomes commonplace.

 

As I write this Kenny Pickett is 24yrs and 142 days old. He's had 3 starts 2 TDs and 7 Ints, and is 1-2 in his starts.

At the exact same age :

Bradshaw : 35 starts 31 tds/58 picks 19-16 W/L with anohter 1-1 in the playoffs. In Bradshaw's time the avg QB Passer rating was 64. Todays its 89.
Mahomes: 31 starts, 76 tds/17 pics, 24-8 W/L with another 4-1 in the POs, He won an MVP and SB MVP
Brady: 14 starts 17 tds/10pics, 10-4 W/L He was 5 weeks older than KP is now when he won his 1st SB MVP.
Petyon: 32 starts 52 tds/43 pics, 16/16 W/L 0-1 in POs, 2nd in MVP voting his 2nd yr.
Rodgers: 0 starts, 1 td/1pick 0-0 W/L

So a bit of a mixed bag. For at least 3 of these guys the question was settled by a mile as to whether they were good NFL QBs or not
Bradshaw had lots of experience, was up/down, but he was a month younger than KP on the day of the Immaculate Reception. I suspect people at that moment, fans would have been pretty satisfied with, 1973 and the 1st half of '74 were pretty shaky for TB, But he fullfiled his promise after that
Aaron Rodgers was setting the bench behind Brett Favre .

You can go glass half empty and say KP in no way resembles 4 of these guys OR go glass half full and say there's no reason he can't have an Aaron Rodgers career.

My view is that Pickett isn't similar to any of these guys. He'll be a good maybe slightly better than good, but not great QB. A Derek Carr, Andy Dalton, Kurt Cousins kind of guy. I suspect that won't be enough for the local fan base. But I could be wrong.

 

I did re-watch the play. I have just watched it from a couple different angles. I still feel the same way about it.

You can't say the defender didn't look back. He was looking back at the ball the entire time. He is literally running the route with Chase and his eyes are on the ball the entire play. The contact is so minimal there. No way that's a flag.

I get what you and Blast are saying about Claypool. But this has become a common theme with him. He needs to keep his feet there.

 

Tell me how the DB is not looking back for the ball.

 

You're saying it's a nice bag because of age? Dude you just should not be comparing at all.

 

I think that was more of a factor on the second throw. The defensive back was in perfect position and jumped the route. That happens to even elite arms like Allen and Mahomes.

 

That link isn't working, but I watched it on a couple of YouTube videos. He looks back after the contact.

 

I have no problem putting blame on Claypool, too. I'm trusting the rules analysts, who usually err on the side of supporting the call on the field.

 

Yeah. When I first posted it it worked. Im not sure what happened.

 

It is not so much that I want to blame Claypool. It's more that stuff like this keeps happening with him. Claypool is a big strong dude. At some point you have to be able to keep your balance through contact.

 

Many thought Malik Willis would be also... QB needy teams passed on Pickett, it's was a reach in a very weak QB class. Pickett is here and I will support him and why I believe he will get this rookie contract to prove it.

 

I think it is both Claypool needs to stop falling down so easily and the officials missed defensive pass interference on the play.