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You are the GM/DFO

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Chainmover1, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. Chainmover1

    Chainmover1 Well-Known Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    Okay, you are now the Steeler GM/DFO[Director of Field Operations] and have reviewed the season, assessed the team from every angle possible and are drawing up plans for the upcoming draft, looked over the FA listings and met with everyone that GM's do?? etc. Got input from everyone GM's do?? Now you're ready for action.

    Well there it is. What are you going to do? [No frivilous comments needed, I'm the one going on a worldwide vacation.]:smiley1:

    Also no Firing of coaches [at this time] confine your strategy to dealings with players [keep, let go] FA [keep, let go] and areas of the team you believe need special addressing.

    Go! Win us a championship.
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  2. Chainmover1

    Chainmover1 Well-Known Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    For starters, I have just issued a directive to the scouting department.

    Find me another Alan Faneca [who can also play OT] :smiley1:
    and another Casey Hampton.
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  3. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

    Mar 20, 2017
    Cut Foster, McCullers, Chickillo, Berry ( ya him ) Switzer

    Try to trade McDonald ( or take pay cut ( or cut )
    Try to trade Conner...Yep
    Pouncey and AV needs to take pay cuts
    Sign Bud
    Hopefully Gravedigger too
    Artie, Davis gone
    Barron...Not sure on this one ?

    Sign a vet QB... Mariotta, Colt McCoy? Idk would have to do some more research on this one
    Hire QB Coach

    Sign a mid tier FA TE
    Draft a HR hitting type/ different kind of RB...Speedy, shifty type to pair with Snell
    Draft big ole NT
    Draft another juicker type ( AB / Dionte Johnson type ) WR
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  4. pjgruden


    Oct 16, 2011
    Take Steely McBeam to the retirement home.

    Bring back block letters.

    Lock Ben in the team facilities with nothing but exercise equipment and healthy food.
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  5. santeesteel


    Oct 17, 2011
    And Cheerleaders!
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  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Find a new DC.
    Find a new WR coach.
    Tell Daniels it's time to retire and find a new TE coach.
    Find a new LB coach or two.

    Cut foster, switzer, berry, chickillo, holton, mccullers, vince. Trade pouncey.

    Extend tj.
    Sign feiler, finney, banner.
    Sign vannett.
    Find a bu FB.
    Sign cain.


    Leki Fotu dt
    One of the Ohio state corners.
    One of the Ohio state wrs.
    Zack baun olb
    Sean pollard c/g/g
    Cole McDonald qb

    Find a bu ilb, dlineman, rb with speed and size.

    I'd start there.:cool:
  7. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    We have a lot of holes on this team... probably just draft BPA.
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  8. Chainmover1

    Chainmover1 Well-Known Member

    Jan 3, 2014

    Holey crap! When I went to spotrac to see if any of these players were FA ---half the freaking team was om there but not the ones I thought Foster and Mccullers

    PLAYER (18)
    2019 AAV

    Vance McDonald TE 30 PIT - $6,550,000 CO - agree gone draft one

    B.J. Finney G 28 PIT TBD $3,095,000 UFA -

    Artie Burns CB 25 PIT TBD $2,397,745 UFA - agree

    Ryan Shazier ILB 27 PIT TBD $2,376,803 UFA -
    Bud Dupree OLB 27 PIT TBD $2,305,571 UFA Market Value
    Sean Davis FS 26 PIT TBD $1,021,743 UFA -
    Javon Hargrave DT 27 PIT TBD $778,564 UFA Market Value
    Nick Vannett TE 27 PIT TBD $764,220 UFA -
    Kameron Canaday LS 27 PIT TBD $675,000 UFA -
    Matt Feiler RT 28 PIT TBD $645,000 RFA -
    Mike Hilton CB 26 PIT TBD $645,000 RFA -
    Leterrius Walton DT 28 PIT TBD $645,000 RFA -
    Tyler Matakevich ILB 27 PIT TBD $600,763 UFA -
    Jordan Dangerfield FS 29 PIT TBD $600,000 RFA -
    Zach Banner T 26 PIT TBD $600,000 RFA -
    Marcus Allen S 24 PIT TBD $570,000 ERFA -
    Lavon Hooks DE 28 PIT TBD $495,000 ERFA -
    J.C. Hassenauer C 26 PIT TBD $495,000 ERFA

    Question ----How does this work?

    As much as I like Vance he has been very injury prone --
    I do believe Burns can easily be replaced---

    Now is that 10 freaking million I can go buy some players with or what???
  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    No, these are guys we have to replace and are not counting against our cap right now. McDonald is.:cool:
  10. Chainmover1

    Chainmover1 Well-Known Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    These are players that several fans have suggested replacing. I am inclined to agree with them.

    But I am finding the following hard to believe but the #'s are accurate.

    accurate from spotrac.com
    -------------------------salary----------cap hit
    Vance McDonald TE $5,500,000 $7,127,500

    A Chickillo OLB $4,500,000 $6,097,500

    Ramon Foster G $4,000,000 $5,575,000

    not sure about this but these are 2 UFA on spotrac

    Kyle Van Noy ILB $4,250,000
    Van Noy's 2019 current $6,291,668 cap figure is broken down: Salary: $4,250,000. copy from google

    Cory Littleton ILB $3,095,000
    2019 Rams $3,095,000 copy from google

    Everyone keeps saying their is no cap room and the FO is always crying poor I don't get it.
    If just those 3 Steelers are gone is that 18M bucks to work with if needed or desired?? And is it possible that Chickillo made more loot than both those UFA's last year?

    Edit: Ehh! That can't be right. I googled the Q and found a video 2 easy ways to add cap space. Didn't help me.

    Some sites have their resident cap expert. I never paid attention to this stuff before but now i'm curious.

    But anyhow their salaries are 13M. I suppose that could be used to acquire a FA.
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  11. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Chicks contract was backloaded so he didn’t earn that much last year, same as Nelson, Vince, Ben, Haden, Heyward and others. Their cap hit increases significantly in 2020. This is just creative accounting that the Steelers use to try to stay ahead of the cap year to year. It has really caught up with them this year though, and Bens monster contract gives them very little wriggle room on top of that.

    Cutting the three players you mentioned saves $14m, I.e. only the salary portion. They have already been paid the rest in the form of a signing bonus.
  12. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2016
    I wish I was. We would of had Dobbs and Metcalf this year and most definitely made the playoffs.
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  13. Chainmover1

    Chainmover1 Well-Known Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    Got it!

    TY: That figures. I did a little searching around and found someone who said he added 24M. He cut 6 players [the three everyone here seems to be letting go] and the punter , Barron. and a DL that others did not agree with. He said it added 24M. I just checked spotrac and that was the exact amount of their salaries.

    I'm going to let this go now because what is more important is knowing your target. And just as I thought there always is a way of getting the money.
  14. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2019
    Also ban GM threads on Steeler related MB's, if ya got the power, might as well use it.
  15. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2019
    The problem with doing business the way the Steelers (and others) do is there is always a hell of a 'payday' against the cap in the future. They can move, and redo contracts to get to 30 million this year if they want, but lets be honest what that 30 mill gets you. Colbert likes to keep 5 mill in reserve..so lets cut to 25, no 1st rounder this year, but rookie class still 4 to 5 mill. Now down to 20. Franchise Bud...uh oh down to 4 or 5 mill already. Even if you do not fracnshise him..if they sign and keep some of their own players there is no room for a major FA, let alone mid level guys.
  16. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

    Nov 4, 2011
    Don’t sell yourself short. The NFL would have probably just awarded us the Lombardi after Week 14 and shut down the rest of the season.
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  17. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    The green font is greatly appreciated. I would of never known you weren’t being serious....;)
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  18. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

    Sep 21, 2017
    For me it is all about getting hot cheerleaders. That way when Ben pisses us off for being too old and slow the men fans who paid good money have something to look at.
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  19. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    I can’t see them being in a comfortable cap position again until Ben retires. Pouncey, Heyward, Villanueva and Haden will all probably go around the same time as Ben, bringing about a major rebuild on both sides of the ball.
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  20. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

    Nov 4, 2011
    Problem is, there’s one person on the board who would have thought I was being serious ;)
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  21. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2019
    As soon as Tomlin would have named Dobbs the starting QB, the rest of the league would have just forfeited the rest of their games. They know that it would have been futile to compete against someone who sported a 52.7 QB rating in pre-season.
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  22. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2019
    Agreed from a QB stand point (unless they seek to sign a FA), but in the next few years they will have to sign TJ and Minkah, as well as other guys. The Steelers are rarely in Cap heaven, but I see your point. Key in rebuilding is getting that productive young QB on a rookie contract, while have other pieces in place. A hard task indeed.
  23. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    I want big tough RBs.
    No one under 5’10”.

    Draft 2.

    Keep 2 of our current Pee Wee Squad RBs.
  24. turtle


    Jan 14, 2015
    Here is what I think they do....

    Restructure as many as possible
    Offer Bud 4yr/48mil
    Let Hargrave walk
    Tender Hilton as a 2nd rounder
    Cut Barron
    Cut Chick
    Re-sign Dirty Red - minimum
    Cut McCullers
    Gamble on the defensive side - Cut Alualu and bank on Buggs and a returning Tuitt (save 2.8 mil If I'm reading it right lol)

    Re-sign Vannett - minimum
    Cut Foster
    Re-sign Finney
    Gamble on the offensive side - Cut McDonald. The team is 2nd to last in cap room and maybe they re-sign later at a better deal when and if he is available during camp.

    FA signings - mid tier defensive tackle and a TE (Logan Thomas?)

    QB - no change depending on Ben's prognosis
    RB - no change
    WR - no change
    TE - Cut Vanimal, re-sign Vannett, get a FA
    OL - Cut Foster, re-sign Finney, sign Banner

    LS - Sign Canaday

    S - No change
    CB - tender Hilton
    LB - sign Dupree, cut Chick and Barron, sign Dirty Red
    DL - Cut Alualu, McCullers, Hargrave signs elsewhere, get FA DT


    2nd - best OL available
    3rd Comp - DT
    4th - BPA
    4th - BPA
    6th - BPA
    7th - BPA

    Need a S and TE in one of the BPA picks.

    It's not going to be a shiny exciting draft. Except some lineman and TEs and depth players. But they will round out the roster.
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  25. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

    Nov 1, 2014
    Lock me up too

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