Would you let Tomlin complete his contract?

Would you let Tomlin complete his contract (it expires mid 2016)?

 

Too early in the season to answer this poll. It might be better to see how the rest of this season plays out.

 

Yes, and one of the great things about the Steelers organization is that the Rooney's have never been the type to have knee-jerk, gut reactions. They allow coaches to develop and learn from both the good and bad seasons to become better coaches. It would bother me to no end if the Rooney's suddenly became like some other modern organizations and starting firing people left and right and not allowing them to learn and grow from their successes and failures.

But it doesn't matter what we think. It matters what the Rooney's and company think.

 

Knee-jerk, gut reactions? Have you watched this team the past several + years? Downward spiral...and zero indication we might ever pull out of it. He should absolutely be fired before his contract is up...as a matter of fact he should be fired before this bye week is up.

 

I find it so funny. Fans clamor for playing the young guys, yet this year we won't live with the pain of doing exactly that. Last year the NO Saints were 0-4...Look at them now. Granted their issue was the coach, but the reality is this team needs to get some of these young guys experience. Painful as it might be to hear, there may be more pain next year. Hood, Woods, Keisel, Clark, Foote....should all probably be gone. I expect probably 12-15 new guys on the team next year with a youth movement.

 

I agree here. he is making changes. he is showing anger. he is trying to will this team into playing better. he's still 0-4. if the changes work, then maybe we talk about one of the best turnarounds in a long time. we will see.

I do think he and Colbert are learning some things. you can play rookies. you can find gems in the FA market during the year. you can find other players that are not retreads that you already got rid of.

 

Blast...you're certainly entitled to your opinion on Tomlin as am I. I don't want to beat a dead horse by saying Tomlin won early with Cowher's team, but the few remaining veterans on this team are the only few left with any heart or desire to win (Kiesel, Polamalu, Ben, Heath)...you can draw your own conclusions from that.

This O-line has been bad for years and has somehow gotten progressively worse. I know injuries happen and that has had something to do with it, but its not just injuries. we constantly swap players around on the line and wonder why they are not a cohesive unit. Adams has been beat like a drum all year and was not replaced because Tomlin said in his presser that the men behind him weren't ready. How is that allowed to happen? 53 guys on the roster and 46 dressed to play...they should all be ready for game action if needed. In week 4, our best lineman is a guy we picked up off the streets 2 weeks ago. That's coaching.

Our RB situation has been a mess since Bettis. Week 16 of last year we didn't even know who our starting RB was. All season it was a debacle and it still is to this day. Our best healthy RB was cut and then re-signed. I know we drafted Bell and he could work out in the future, but we have to be ready for injuries and have suitable replacements should injuries happen...other well coached teams do...we do not. That's coaching.

Clock management...I don't even know where to begin. That's coaching.

Our bend, don't break defense is broke...and it has been breaking for several years. Don't tell me we were the #1 defense last year...because that stat is a mess and any Steeler fan will tell you we were not the #1 defense last year. I love Dick Lebeau as much as anybody, but this game has passed him. Its time to make changes on defense. We consistently play 10-15 yards off of WR's on 3rd and 3, we don't get to the QB anymore and haven't for years, RB's kill us out of the backfield...and we are progressively getting worse. That's coaching.

Our special teams has been a mess for years (other than Suisham). That's coaching.

Conditioning sucks. That's coaching

I am and always will be a Steeler fan, but I'm sorry, we are a hot mess and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Tomlin understandably can't fix everything by himself. Coordinators and coaches are put in place to handle their units, but we have been through several coordinators and coaches and we are getting worse. Tomlin oversees them all and he needs to take the blame for the shape we are in. He may have been a decent defensive backs coach in Tampa...but he is way in over his head as head coach of the Steelers.

 

My point was that they have historically allowed coaches to grow and develop through the good and the bad. The Steelers have had 3 HCs total since I have been a Steelers fan in the late 70s, and each of them has at least one SB win (I'll agree that Tomlin's was partly due to inheriting the team he did), and that kind of stability has an awful lot to do with 8 trips to the SB and 6 rings.

And Blast Furnace is exactly right. 3 of the 4 seasons before last year were 12 -4 seasons, and last year was at least partially, if not mostly, derailed when Ben got his rib injury. Cowher, had two 9 -7 seasons, two 6 - 10 seasons, and a 7 -9 season before winning a SB.

 

from 0 to ten my grades of steelers coaches :

noll 9
cowher 6
tomlin 5

i would like to have somebody around 7/8 ...i can wait

 

Roonies will never cut a guy loose for 2 bad seasons
Gotta stay with them. They let Noll and Cowher both have some bad spots. Woeked out ok for us. Tomlin won 1 and lost a SB. We been around

 

Just a little myth to dispel here.

2007 (first year without Bettis) - 2168 total rushing yards.
2008 - 1690
2009 - 1793
2010 - 1924
2011 - 1903
2012 - 1537

The numbers aren't that different. 2012 was low, but not lower than seasons we had with Bettis (when we were primarily a running team).

I know that's probably not the point you're making, but the idea that we've had no running game since Bettis is not true.

 

Yes.

 

or not


http://thedirty.com/2013/10/exclusive-pittsburgh-steelers-head-coach-mike-tomlin-loves-his-women/

 

I think that sums it up quite well.

 

I can't vote on this because I don't have near enough information but other fans of very high intellect have made note and commented how amazing the Steelers fans are for not calling for the coaches head.

I agree these are messed up times but the Steelers have 6 Super Bowl trophies and that's enough for me to get my popcorn and ride this out.

 

I hope your right Blast...I really do. We will see I guess. Go Steelers!

 

We always talk about the 'Rooneys way' but since Dan is now 81 years old, aren't the Rooneys basically just Art II? The handling of the Arians situation was un-Rooney like and it makes me wonder if Art II will show less patience than the others.

 

I'll just ditto all of this. I am starting to have serious reservations about Mike Tomlin's ability to be the HEAD COACH of this football team. He was a decent DC but to be the HC is an entirely different ball game. I remember when he was hired he made the comment "I'm a fundamentalist as opposed to scheme". Hmmm. Think about that for a minute. Why can't you be both?? Why can't you demand that your players block, tackle and play smart PLUS develop a schematically sound game plan designed to expolit your opponent's weaknesses and deficiencies. I just don't think Tomlin is the brightest bulb in the chandalier and he is constantly getting outcoached from a preparation standpoint and also from the standpoint of making in-game adjustments. I'm beginning to believe more and more that he may not be the guy for the job. The Rooneys will let him complete his contract, but we may have some dark days ahead.

 

I vote no for him to complete his contract. I think a lot of blame for Tomlin needs to be laid at Rooney's doorstep though. Basically feel that Tomlin was the type of coach they needed when they hired him. I even think his demeanor resonated well with the team when they won that SB in 08 because he seemed cool and calm and player's coach. But really since the latter half of when they last made the playoffs this has been a team that badly needs molding from a head coach. I honestly don't think Tomlin has been given that chance to that or in combination with that he has not inspired enough confidence within Steeler's ownership that he gets more control. Whatever it is, it's not working - so it's time to move on.