Would You Draft a Running Back in Round 1?

Blast Furnace · Mar 2, 2025 at 11:28 AM

Formerscribe said: ↑

That is an interesting rhetorical technique. Ignore the evidence and keep repeating your position without supporting it at all. It's not effective, but it is interesting.

They didn't just give Patterson a few snaps. They gave him Harris's snaps. They didn't trust Warren to handle a No. 1 back's workload. Also, if they had such faith in Warren, why didn't they ever start him over Harris? Harris had a few stinkers this season, some when Warren was healthy, but they never made the move. That tells you who they trusted more.

They like Warren as a third-down back who gets some snaps on regular downs. They may try to keep him because he is much cheaper than Harris, but the available evidence contradicts your claim.
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Your “evidence” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there my guy.

I’m sorry that the more obvious fact that they didn’t pickup Harris very affordable option while they tender Warren is inconvenient to your narrative. Gee scribe, what is more indicative of how they feel, a 1 game sample size or the fact they are keeping Warren over Harris, hmmm.

You’re wrong, get over it.

Blast Furnace · Mar 2, 2025 at 11:43 AM

Blast Furnace · Mar 2, 2025 at 12:13 PM

steelersrule6 said: ↑

I don't see Warren getting 20 carries a game he hasn't shown he can carry that load.
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Between 15-20 I should have said. I see him with a Jahmyr Gibbs workload.

Blast Furnace · Mar 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM

Formerscribe said: ↑

Harris took on a heavier workload than Warren when they were both healthy in 2023. The splits were even more dramatic in 2022, but that is somewhat misleading because Warren was a rookie trying to work his way into playing time and Harris was an established starter. This idea that Harris only got the ball more because Warren was hurt does not fif the evidence.
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Their workload was more evenly split in 2023 while Warrens decreased somewhat in 2024 while battling injuries.

I think you are under the impression Harris was carrying the rock 25-30 times a game. He exceeded 20 only 3 or 4 games.

Bubbahotep · Mar 2, 2025 at 12:35 PM

Harris is leaving because he was 'square peg, round hole' in A Smith's offense. His best rushing was on inside zones. A Smith wants to run outside zones. Warren was better at those runs. In fact, Warren's YPC was better on 7 out of 10 rush concepts. It's why he stays and Najee goes.

jeh1856 · Mar 2, 2025 at 12:40 PM

steelersrule6 said: ↑

It's not my fault you have the person I was quoting on ignore and can't keep up with the conversation .
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Now you are catching on

Vox Ferrum · Mar 2, 2025 at 1:01 PM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

Their workload was more evenly split in 2023 while Warrens decreased somewhat in 2024 while battling injuries.

I think you are under the impression Harris was carrying the rock 25-30 times a game. He topped out at 20 and only hit that mark around 3 or 4 games.
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In some games it might have been injuries, but Patterson was used when Warren was available, and often to frustrating results. IDK if it was Smith's being comfortable with CP, stubbornness, but CP was not the guy he once was. The play calling and line play was also suspect, not picking out any particular thing, but over all Warren fit's this scheme.

Bubbahotep · Mar 2, 2025 at 1:30 PM

Vox Ferrum said: ↑

In some games it might have been injuries, but Patterson was used when Warren was available, and often to frustrating results. IDK if it was Smith's being comfortable with CP, stubbornness, but CP was not the guy he once was. The play calling and line play was also suspect, not picking out any particular thing, but over all Warren fit's this scheme.
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Smith runs a DEI offense. It was the complaint about him in ATL when Allgeier was getting a bunch of touches even though Robinson was clearly the better back.

jeh1856 · Mar 2, 2025 at 1:52 PM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

You’re wrong, get over it.
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Good luck with that

Blast Furnace · Mar 2, 2025 at 2:16 PM

Bubbahotep said: ↑

Smith runs a DEI offense. It was the complaint about him in ATL when Allgeier was getting a bunch of touches even though Robinson was clearly the better back.
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This. The hope was that he was the HC in Atlanta and that Tomlin would override him here but using Paterson was classic Smith coaching.

Thor · Mar 2, 2025 at 2:50 PM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

This. The hope was that he was the HC in Atlanta and that Tomlin would override him here but using Paterson was classic Smith coaching.
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Oddly, he didn't do it Tennessee. (Well, not exactly 'odd' when Henry is your lead back.) Maybe Vrabel shut it down, but after the mixed results and heat he took in Atlanta you'd think he'd rethink on the concept.

steelersrule6 · Mar 2, 2025 at 3:17 PM

Vox Ferrum said: ↑

In some games it might have been injuries, but Patterson was used when Warren was available, and often to frustrating results. IDK if it was Smith's being comfortable with CP, stubbornness, but CP was not the guy he once was. The play calling and line play was also suspect, not picking out any particular thing, but over all Warren fit's this scheme.
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Hopefully they cut Patterson, so we don't have to watch his slow ass try to play RB.

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