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Worst-case scenario - COTY and extension

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Michael E, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. Extended Mike Tomlin, unknown conditions (Rooney directives)

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  2. Clean the coaching house and let Khan and Co scour pro/college for a new HC and OC/DC?

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  1. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    It’s humorous because y’all can’t grasp the simple freaking concept your favorite team in any sport might not ever win a championship again. It’s really that simple. Championships don’t grow on trees. Hell 1/3 of the league has never won a Super Bowl and y’all sit there and claim we will never win another as long as x,y,z. Why on dog’s green earth would I want to miss your comedy routine?
     
  2. Rollers

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    Well I dearly love your routine as well. Again you have zero idea what is my thoughts. Zero. Yet you seek to convince everyone here your views are correct and to hell with anyone's stated opinion you attempt to tell is what we are thinking. Don't worry I'll attempt to keep you amused. You arrogance is refreshing
     
  3. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    :popcorn:
     
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  4. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    We need to see a playoff win, Our FO has provided an upgraded roster
    It is time for players and coaches to seize the moment.
     
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  5. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    Again, not praising Dobbs but rather the fact he praised MT who a majority on this MB want to be shown the door along with all his Assistants. I see it as ironic. But, I'm just the messenger.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    My bad. I misunderstood.
    Again My bad. I'm sorry. :thumbs_up:
     
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  7. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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  8. Formerscribe

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    You keep making comparisons that aren't relevant to support this take. Yardage is a much better measure for a running back than points are for a kicker. Just because Roethlisberger played at the same time as guys like Manning and Brady doesn't mean Bell wasn't better than Todd Gurley or whatever other back you might try to prop up against him. You write as if Bell's ability to rack up touches a negative. It was an advantage. So was his versatility. He was able to run a more complex route tree and make tougher catches than most running backs. He was a fantastic blocker if he had to pick up a blitz. That versatility was extremely valuable in a true feature back.

    He was a knucklehead who cut his prime short due to his idiocy, but you could make an argument that no back was better in that stretch from 2014 through 2017.
     
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  9. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    upload_2023-11-8_9-52-10.jpeg :drinks:
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Point is....he was never the best RB in the league. He may have been 2nd at times, or 3rd, and 4th, but never the best. I get tired of Hearing this. It's not magic that most guys that had to take His spot anytime He was injured, or suspended did very well when He was out, or that J. Connor 1st year in His spot did almost as good as Bell did in that spot .....his very 1st year as a starter. That is what happens when Defenses don't have You at the top of the list of things to stop. Again it's not magic that when suspended the guy that took His place actually did lead the league in rushing while He was out. I know people loved Him....he was very good, but never the best RB in the league. Never.
     
  11. Formerscribe

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    Who was better than Bell in 2014? Who was better in 2016? You could make an argument for Gurley in 2017, but those other seasons?
     
  12. Steelersfan43

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    I already asked him this question in the past and he said Murray in 2014 and Elliott in 2016
     
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  13. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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  14. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    Yeah but those shots are painful. Oh you mean our boy from Arky. Never mind.;)
     
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  15. Formerscribe

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    That's funny because in one post, he wants to dismiss Bell's production as a function of getting the ball so much, but that was Elliott's advantage in 2016. He played more. He had a slightly higher average par carry, but wasn't nearly as productive as Bell as a receiver.

    He also talked about how other backs had success in the Pittsburgh offense, yet both of those backs had the advantage of the Cowboys' dominant offensive line.
     
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  16. S.T.D

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    Murray in 2014 Had more rushing yard, and total yards, and more total tds.
    2016. Elliott the very same, but He not only had more tds, but actually blew Bells Tds away, and I'm only going by the actual number ones those years. I'm not even looking at number 2, or 3s....I'm just comparing to L. Bell. Again. Bell was great, and I know people loved Him, but He was never.....never...the best RB in the league at anytime. There was always a better RB each year.
     
  17. S.T.D

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    Now You sound like You are reaching. He never lead in rushing, or tds, or rushing, and receiving put together. Just face it He was never the best RB in the league at any season. He was great, but not what some want to say He was.
     
  18. Steelersfan43

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    You are the last one who can said it to other since you are reaching every day on this forum!!!...I mean you were reaching few moment ago by comparing the 2019 ravens to the 2020 steelers in a another thread
     
  19. S.T.D

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    LoL
    .. . LoL. Dude....You have got to be the biggest Ravens supporter,, and apologist for the Ravens out of any Steelers fan I have ever seen. Ever. Nobody can say a bad word about the Ravens in anyway, and You jump to their defense. LoL. I have never seen the like before, and I'm not just talking about with Me....it's anyone that say anything about the Ravens in anyway. Are you sure You are a Steelers fan. I can bring up multiple quotes of You doing this, and not just with Me. LoL
     
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  20. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    Ravens suck! There
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    Touchdowns are not a good measure of a skill player's effectiveness, not even a running back. See Barry Sanders. It certainly doesn't make up for Bell's edge in production as a receiver.
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    I'm not reaching at all. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your posts. You argued Bell's production was inflated by getting the ball more, but you want to ignore that factor in comparing him with Elliott in 2017. You claim that Bell is somehow diminished because other backs were able to produce when he was out for the Steelers, but you want to ignore that the two backs who contended with him to be the best in the league in 2014 and 2017 both had Dallas's dominant offensive line.
     
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  23. S.T.D

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    LoL. OK. Needless of However You break it down....He was never the best RB in the league....maybe 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, but never number 1. I have shown proof of this.....You... like I said are reaching.
     
  24. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You have provided evidence to support your claim, but it is far from incontrovertible evidence, especially given the hypocrisy involved in your argument.
     
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  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. He never led in anything, rushing yards, or overall yards, or tds, but You are welcome to think what You like. It's like people saying Lamar Jackson is the MVP this year.....yes if you stretch things, and not look at what most people win MVPs for....same with trying to say L. Bell was the best rb in the league. Again....2nd best some years, 3rd, and 4th best others.....yes, but never number 1.
     

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