Willie Colon back next season?

and nobody in the league was after him when he was sitting at home either year. only us. there's a reason for that.

 

"Someone's trash is someone's treasure". And he's been better then anyone we have on the roster.

Plus I wonder where he ranks among starting left tackles?

 

he was always ranked pretty low amongst LT's. bottom third in the league. just because he's the best on the roster doesn't make him a good LT. he's average AT BEST against the pass and terrible at run blocking. terribly slow feet and fattens up as the season goes on every year. that makes him slower yet.

he's 6-8 with long arms and thats about all that keeps him even remotely decent against the pass. thats only if he gets his hands on people. gilbert didn't do bad last year at LT. not great but decent as a rookie. he has slow feet too though and is soft for a guy his size. we just didn't have a right tackle after colon went down again last year so we brought max back, because we needed gilbert on the right. keeping colon screwed us again last year. again they waited to long to start looking.

adams has played pretty well as he has gotten more time on the rightside. adams is a better run blocker then max by far. pass protection is what he needs to work on. specifically the double move swim to the inside. beachum has done even better i think. he has done a good job over there. he wasen't even practicing for that side and is the first he's played there.

 

Gilbert struggled at RT for a large portion of the year and now you want to put him at LT???!!!??? Crazy!

 

where did i say that? and large portion of the year? how in the hell did you get that from what i typed? he played decent there last year i said. i don't even want him on the team actually. he was a waste of a second round pick i have always said. he might be alright for the backup swing tackle next year is about it.

 

colon will be gone ,we should eat 3,6 milion dead money but we save 5,5 ,would be nice to trade him but we don't do these things

 

That is just it...everyone wants to run Starks out of town, who is going to replace him with no drop off?

So far I don't see anyone. Maybe Adams, if and only if Adams makes a jump in level of play in training camp.

And yeah, I'm not too thrilled with Gilbert either, he is not swift of foot....my only suggestion is maybe he can be a better Right Guard than Tackle since RG's don't have to pull as often as the LG (Decastro is the exception, not the rule). Then maybe DD is the LG.

 

well they could pull if they could move. why put another big slow body after the other in that spot? that has been our trouble, why keep going there?

 

Definitely don't disagree with your assessment of Starks but I would not trust anybody on the current roster to man the left side. Adams could be but he will have to show that he can be exceptional before I let Starks go.

 

what do you mean let him go? he's a free agent at the end of the year. i would hope our players , like adams and some others don't just stay at the level they are at as rookies. most do improve. it's not all about what they looked like in preseason as some make it out to be.

i also don't want to sign max next year and then get stuck with his contract too, like we have done so many times before. like we did with kemoeatu and now colon. max is not going to improve from what he is. at least our young guys like adams,DD,pouncey,beachum will get better. heck beachum is already showing improvement and so has adams.

gilbert could be the backup swing tackle next year. put one more new guard with this bunch and we have some mobility and a nice looking group to build on for next season. it also won't cost us any more money , since we don't have it.

 

What i mean by letting him go is that i would be the first to try to resign him to at least a one year deal.

Preseason and training camp is a good indicator of what you will do during the regular season.

I hope our oline does improve but no one has distinguish themselves to handle the left side

we tried the "no max experiment" and failed miserablely. For two seasons we tried to move on without him and both times he's came back and solidify our oline.

 

neither adms gilbert beachum are ready to play on the left now , maybe they will but till now starks is our best option

 

just because scott didn't work out for two games doesn't mean you just settle for below average. starks was just slightly better then scott. there should have been a better option brought in before it got to that point. at least to try. we left ourselves with no other options. thats on colbert and MT. we can't stop trying to get better because max is sitting there. thats what they have done too.

can you imagine how good ben could be if he could sit in that pocket for a second and a half longer? he doesn't have that with starks and never will. we already know he hurts us in the run game. keeping max reminds me of 5 piles of doo sitting there and we like the one that has peanuts in it. colon has corn. it's still doo.

 

for this year we are not going to change. BUT...................

i still think we could use a LT. adams may be that guy but we don't know that. if he is great, but he has looked fairly decent on the right.

that's why i'd love to draft thornton. he fits two spots possibly. LT and LG. he's played both very well at illinois. win, win for the line moving forward. it also gives us backup options if decimated by injuries.

it lets us move forward for the next several years. that would cover both sides at tackle and give us a much better player at guard to go with DD and pouncey.
it matches the line up as far as mobility and talent level.

gilbert and beachum can also play either side in a pinch. two good backups. they will have to learn the guard spots too. legs not being very good at guard wouldn't hurt as bad and an UDFA could come in as a C/G for the PS. unless malecki still has eligibility. he's a decent center too.

it also cuts the cost but makes us better overall as a unit. we can run our whole playbook. price will be important. cheaper and better? whats not to like.

 

Starks being only slightly better that Scott is laughable. Scott was aboslute garbage.

They definitely need to find a guy they can trust first before moving Starks...Thorton would have to be one hell of a rookie to do that week 1.

 

scott did better and played more then most of you guys noticed, those two years. yet you all remember a couple of games when he was injured to start the season , yet max gets passes for his aweful games for some reason. last week alone he had 6 pressures, 2 sacks, and a hit on ben. you should actually watch the guys you are talking about and calling garbage.

scott was bad but max isn't much better and i will go as far to say, scott was the better run blocker. we can do much better then either of the two. by the way i said max was slightly better then scott. i see your points though we are setting the world on fire with max. this is sad.