Will Howard Draft Watch

I don't see any of these QBs in the class of 25 as sure-fire franchise QBs.

 

Would be weird if you did.

 

I don't buy into that at all... There have been lots of Big Ten QB's that have been successful (Brees and Brady being the most prolific of late). Stroud looks to be bucking the OSU trend of course, but time will tell. Not to mention all of the other successful QB's that face lower competition at the college level.

Ben Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, Jake Delhomme, Jimmy Garoppolo, Carson Wentz, Brock Purdy, Steve McNair, Jon Kitna, Joe Flacco, Rich Gannon, etc., and that is just off the top of my head. There are tons of really good QB's that come from small schools (that face "subpar" competition) or even programs that aren't traditional powerhouses. That's just the QB's too. Its pronounced with nearly every position. I don't buy that the "faces bad competition" thing has any bearing on how a player turns our in the NFL because it is basically a proven fact at this point that it doesn't. Not sure why people still try to push this narrative?

 

Would 100% agree. Last year's class looked a lot better IMO. That doesn't mean one or more of them couldn't be good though. Just seems like a bigger reach that Quinn Ewers or Shedeur Sanders turns out to be a stud than Williams/Daniels/Maye did.

 

Sure it's true, when you have 5star players up and down
your roster that Ga.has ,his teammates are so much more talented
That it really the evaluation process is skewed because of one sided talent.

 

Before the season people were talking up Carson Beck as one of the top QBs to be drafted in the first round, he has been an interception machine this season.

 

Do You just see my name, and the desire to argue wipes all brain functions???
1st. Anyone on the board that knows me ....knows I picked CJ Stroud to be the best Qb to come out of Ohio State. Ever.
2. Do not compare Ohio State with other big 10 schools. No big 10 school accumulate talent....year in, and year out like Ohio State.
3. I never said anything about the other schools not having good Qb. That is an invention out of your mind.
4. If You don't know the difference between playing with a team with 10 NFL prospects a year....against teams with maybe 2 NFL prospects a year. You really need to watch more football.
5. Out of what I said that You quoted....had anything to do with what You argued. LoL
You just argued to argue. Because I said nothing of what You spent all that time writing.

 

This is something that went right by His head.

 

Lmao, no we just have different wavelengths my guy... its all good.

1. Same. That wasn't the argument though
2. Why? You argued that it had to do with inferior competition, and the other Big Ten schools play essentially the same schedule. Unless you mean that every team that they play is worse than Ohio State, then why wouldn't the same thing apply to other universities like Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia, etc.? Because those teams play 90 percent of the games against teams that are worse than them too...
3. Your argument was that the QB's turned out to be bad because they just lit it up against inferior competition. The other QB's mentioned played inferior competition and it didn't affect their ability to be an NFL QB.
4. That is all of college football? It's not like OSU is a FCS team... they play just as many games against bad teams as any other high end program outside of maybe the SEC.

 

Must have.

 

I think lGabbet from Miami OH is someone to keep an eye on as an udrafted free aent

 

Dude go back , and read again what I originally said.
LoL.
The problem is not playing on a inferior team, or playing on a super team. The problem is playing on a super team that plays mostly inferior teams. Then it becomes hard to really see if a Qb, or player is good. Yet all that flew over Your head , and you argued something I wasn't even talking about. Of course all types of team have talent, and do You think I have watched the College game, and the NFL since the 70s, and didn't know all those players that have made it???
In fact it's easier to see a talented player on a inferior team, but that's not what I was talking about, but somehow you morphed it into that. LoL.
The problem is Ohio State is a far superior team in talent to most the teams they play.....so it's hard to judge the individual players on Ohio State.....yet You somehow change that into something totally what I wasn't even talking about.