Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report)

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

I think the broadcasters are allowed to say anything they want. They are paid by CBS and not the NFL. But yeah he did change his mind and I was like "dude you are nothing but a homer"! But the most painful thing of it all is that Bill Cowher said the ref made the right call. He's just getting senile or something. I love ya coach but that's just not cool dude. However I'm guessing if he were on the sidelines yesterday he might not have been so forgiving. lol.

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

on Mike and Mike today Jaws and Ditka both saod that might have been the worst offitiated game they have ever seen.

pretty much every bad call went against the Steelers.

the call against Clark had Golic fired up. the one that bugged me the most was the call that was reversed on the hit on Wallace. talk about a defenseless player. he was on the ground and the DB hit him helmet to helmet and the refs picked up the flag.

im glad the Steelers were able to beat the Giants and the refs last night. my wife actually watched the game with me and she even thought the game was fixed. she said once she saw all the military, 1st responders and Goodell there, that the Steelers had no chance.

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

Here is an argument that this throw wasnt a fumble, but could have been ruled under the tuck rule, or at the very least ben had a grip on the ball at the start of his forward passing motion to confirm it was an incomplete pass, watch this slow motion frame by frame video it clearly shows his forward motion with the ball being gripped...I think after watching this video it could have been ruled a tuck or an incomplete, also how did they not call a clip on the fumble return for a touchdown??? The refs definitley showed their bias in trying to help the giants get a sympathy win......

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/11/4/3 ... hlisberger

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

I agree. Simms called BS on those boneheaded calls. Then after a commercial, he was singing a different tune. Someone must have talked to him and told him to get with the program and all hail Goodell...

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

at the end watching how manning was poor i even thought they didn't want to try to win a game so bad unfair

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind. Someone told him to remember who he works for, and he listened.

I agree that Simms was better to us than he normally is, but considering the absurdity of the calls against us, he had no choice. Frankly, I was upset with how mildly he was taking it. The PI against Lewis was clearly a perfect defensive play deserving of no penalty. It was textbook defense. Simms saw the replay and went, "Yeah that's pass interf-- umm... you know, that's a close call." Then he went on to talk about how the penalty for PI is too severe and it should be more like college (which I agree with, but come on Phil, just say it's a bad call!). Then the Clark foul happened, and while he did actually say the words "bad call" for that one he also spoke about how we all have the luxury of slow motion replays, and the refs don't. UHHH it was painfully obvious what happened the first time. Slow speed, regular speed, fast forward. Doesn't matter. It was plain as day. I believe he also said that while Clark didn't hit the guy's head, it could have been ruled too late, and it's just another close judgment call. Well since the ball had been tipped and not hit the ground yet, I'd say it was pretty perfect freaking timing. And if Taylor hadn't stopped the ball, Cruz would have already caught it and Clark's hit would be the only chance to save the play. It was perfect freaking timing, and there's no "judgment" about that.

Then, of course, the "fumble." No sane person could think that's a fumble. Ben maintained complete control for the entire throwing motion, the ball slipped out of his grasp and went forward many yards. Easy incomplete pass. Phil himself barely even bothered to comment on the play beyond saying it was clearly going to come back because there's no other option (the right thing to say). Then the play stands somehow, he is surprised, they go to commercial... and on his 100th viewing of the replay, he somehow realizes it's a fumble. Wow. The first 99 times he was wrong I guess. He points to Ben's pinkie moving to say he lost control of the ball. Because that's how it works, right? Does anybody believe he didn't get a phone call or an index card handed to him during that commercial?

The non-called clip against Miller is the only one he didn't come up with some excuse for. He still backtracked in one form or another on 3 of the 4 horrible calls against us. So yeah, I've seen a lot worse from Phil, but let's not go nuts. He still didn't do us any favors, and he still didn't call an honest game. Whether you believe in crazy conspiracies or not, the facts are that we were getting hosed by the refs in that game, and as a result the Giants were handed 11-14 points. An honest announcer would point that out, and it wouldn't make him biased, it would make him observant. I hate that they try to soften this stuff to make the league look better.

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

The funny thing is on the archived replay of the game, all of his most difinitive disagreement of the calls is edited out. I was trying to go back and watch it last night and was like did the sound just skip? Nope they cut it out on the NFL site.

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

If this type of calling would have happened when the replacement refs were still calling games, it would be the biggest story all week, as the media would be trying to crucify the replacements. This was worse than the replacements.

Secondly on the Ben / Fumble call... If Ben is able to loose the ball that he has in one hand while getting hit and then with that same hand magically regain posession of it in a fraction of a second, he must truely be miraculous, even moreso than shooting the wings off of flies while they are flying without killing them like in the movie. Come-on man!

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

I think this pic shows a firm grip

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

I agree 10,000%

 

Re: Why The Call on Ben's Fumble Stood (from Bleacher Report

That sure is a firm grip BB. His thumb is putting a serious indention in the ball. Ben has one heckuva grip. Can you imagine that grip on your neck? Ouch!