Why didn't we challenge Brown's catch for a 1st down?

3rd and 16 I think... and Ben makes a great throw to Brown on the sideline. Officials call it no catch.

Replay clearly shows its a catch. I've watched it half a dozen times. It's a catch and clearly so. WTF is wrong with our coaching staff to not at least look at that? We challenge that play and I believe it's first down near FG range. HUGE mistake that could have changed the out come of the game.

Add that to going for it on 4th down early in the game. BAD clock management, and a game plan to run run run and keep it close made no sense. Sure Ben had a poor game but it was still enough to win if we had a not made several coaching errors. I can deal with players making mistakes trying to make a play. I can't deal with coaches making mistakes because they have their heads up there asses. Arrogance has cost Tomlin so many wins over the past 5 years. He's all about doing what no one expects. 2 point conversions, not taking FG's when you should, disregarding the clock and not knowing how to manage time outs. There is a reason other NFL coaches never do the the stuff Tomlin does.

 

I saw that too. Rewound the dvr and watched it 4 times, 100% catch. Clear as day. I don't know why they didn't challenge, but I know what Coach will say Tuesday: "we don't get the replays on the jumbotron to look at at away stadiums".

 

I was at the game and could not really see the play. They did not show it on the big screen (obviously). What was our time-out situation at the time?

Another thing that perplexed me was when they blew the play dead due to a neutral zone infraction (defense off-sides). That should be a free play and it would have been a TD. They did not reshow that one either.

 

Tomlins gut told him not to.

 

Didn't we just have 1 timeout at that point?
Had we lost it, we would be without any time outs.

Which I should also mention that Ben killed us taking those time outs.

 

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The time out situation was ridiculous! Ben has to get those guys to the line in an important game and be able to get a play off without using a time out!

 

Ben acts like Peyton, taking the clock to sub 5 seconds before the snap, any issues you must call time out. It makes me nuts. Burning those 2 TO's hurt.

 

Pretty sure we had 2 TO's at that point. But even if we had 1. It was obvious. There was no doubt about it... that was a catch and a HUGE 1st down on about a 20+ yard pass. We would have been near FG range and a chance to score a TD. That single missed challenge might have put us in the playoffs. Thats why it is so important to have a coach that is well organized and knows what they are doing. Sure you can say this about any coach on 1 play here or there....but in this game alone there were several gaffes by the HC...and it's been a consistent issue all season. Tomlin cost us the playoffs in 2015 - there's no question in my mind. And it's not just one bad call in one game.. you can point out several game changing gaffes that prevented us from winning more than once.

 

I only saw the replay once on redzone (and then they cut away), but I was thinking we'd challenge and win. Much to my lack of surprise, next thing you know we're punting. At least we didn't run a fake on 4th and 16 (or take the safety).....

 

Yeah, that one annoyed me. It may have been that one of the Steelers jumped early in response, but it didn't look like that - more that half the guys had stopped playing, so they had to whistle it dead.

 

This might be the best post I have seen on here since joining. I couldn't have said it better myself about Tomlin. He thinks everything he does and every decision he makes is right and when the media questions him about it after he gets so damn defiant it makes me sick. He was asked about clock management after the screw up in the SD game early in the season and he responded with some arrogant ass answer like I'm not gonna make sure the concession stands need help and just things along those lines. Tomlin's clock management is horrific and flat out inexcusable at times. He has no concept of what is going on half the time. I'm with you 100 percent the game plan of run run run was not very good and giving the ball to Toussant two plays in a row on that first drive with all the weapons this team has is insane. I said this in another thread that Tomlin's job security really needs to start being questioned if this team misses the playoffs again and goes 5 seasons without winning a playoff game. There is no way the Rooney's can be happy about this year after year. At some point it's not going to be good enough and Tomlin needs to be put on notice about it sooner rather then later.

 

yawn

come on
you cannot challenge every call

 

Don't coaches typically talk to someone up in their booth (OC if he's there, other staff, etc) about whether to challenge a play? Would doubt they go on Jumbotron alone, especially since at away games they would likely not show it.

 

Aren't you guys tired of Mike Tomlin screwing up?? Can't the Steeler organization do better than Mike Tomlin?? While some think he's God, I think he's way over-rated. He talks a good game, but his game planning & management has always been questionable...

 

AB didn't argue it, so I figured it wasn't a catch

 

At some point you have to presume your HC is going to make the right call. 'Nuf said there.

 

You're probably right, but I've heard Coach say in the past that they aren't always privy to the replays we get on the TV broadcast and that he uses the jumbotron replays to get a better look. I'm not a Tomlin hater btw, I just thought we got hosed on that call and it should have been challenged. Definitely a catch on 3rd & 16. Just one of the many things that didn't go our way Sunday.

 

Well., there is that as well. I expected AB to be shouting about it when he got up, but he just kind of shrugged. At that point, I thought that maybe it wasn't a catch. Replay still suggests otherwise.

 

I thought they did review it. They review all potential scoring plays don't they? Therefore no challenge needed.

 

I believe you confusing the 2 plays. The first down play was not challenged which would have likely brought them within field goal range. The TD was reviewed

 

Understood, thanks

 

What was just as bad as running 80% of the time in the first quarter...was coming out the 2nd half and not running at all. You have to mix it up. Get 1st downs and quit trying to hit HR's on every play.

 

But you can challenge the calls that are clearly wrong. The coaches have live video with the ability to rewind and review... we aren't the only guys with a DVR on game day people. That was a huge gaffe by someone.

 

I know

 

Where did you get the information that the coaches have live video with the ability to rewind and review? I've never seen the devices to review plays down on the sideline.

You had the opportunity to review the play several times. The coaches have less than 40 seconds to review plays to make a decision. Sometimes coaches don't have the opportunity to view plays on the jumbo tron.