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Who would you like to have as a Head Coach?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Chris K, Dec 29, 2024 at 9:52 AM.

  1. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Go on to any Ravens message board and you’ll see that half their fan base wants Harbaugh ran out of town.

    I like your list. I also like O’Connell in Minnesota and LeFleur in Green Bay
     
  2. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    I'm also a big fan of O'Connell. I forgot to include him.
    I also like his OC, Wes Phillips. That team had Cousins and now Darnold light it up. That doesn't happen by accident. They seem to be doing good things with QB's on that team. I expect Wes Phillips to become a head coach at some point in the future.
     
  3. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Yes Minnesota may have the best coaching setup in the league with Flores on D as well.

    O’Connell seems to be able to make it work with any decent QB. What he has done with Darnold is remarkable
     
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  4. bobby

    bobby Well-Known Member

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    this team needs a Head coach that acts like a coach instead of best friend to the players. There has to be a reason this team keeps getting players with major head problems that continues until it affects the teams play on and off the field. Other then Cam who is the leader on this team? Sure isnt the coach we have now
     
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  5. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Agree with most of this except for Dak being a franchise QB. Lamar still has to prove he can do it in the playoffs as well.
     
  6. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    I’ll take Dak every day over what we have had in recent years

    I’ve changed my mind on Lamar. He is really really good. I think he will win a superbowl at some point
     
  7. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Someone who lets his 2 Coordinators do their job, and is not afraid that they know more than you.
     
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  8. Jball

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    No, Shanahan hasn't won a SB, but his teams made it to the NFC championship game 4 times in his 8 years, and advanced to the SB twice. That is being highly competitive.

    And he had to completely rebuild that team the first 2 years he was there. They won 7 games total in the two years before he came aboard. They were a joke.
     
  9. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    I wanted Ken Whisenhunt after Cowher!
     
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  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    you need stability at QB before you make an offer to any of these high grade coaches. they don't want to walk into uncertainty. no QB's, no RB's, the WR situation, O-line up in the air, defense aging, many of whom aren't under contract next year. yep this sounds like a place they would go out of their way to walk in to. :cool:
     
  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    For any other team, yes. For the Steelers who have had 3 coaches in the past 50+ years a head coach will come in knowing that he has a chance to truly build something. A coach who believes in himself would love this opportunity.
     
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  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's why i think a younger guy, maybe from the college ranks. i don't think an established guy will want to come into a rebuild this harsh. :cool:
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    What’s harsh about it? There is way, way, way more talent here than a coach will typically have in place when taking a new job. QB is the only gap that isn’t addressable fairly quickly with smart offseason moves.
     
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  14. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    We are far from a rebuild. We have a good team. Like every team, there's some holes and there's always question marks going into the future, that's the nature of free agency and the salary cap.
    We're in relatively good shape
     
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  15. forgotten1

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    Yeah, you know me


    I'm down with @PWP@PWP !!!!!
     
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  16. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    They did it before…. And everyone said he won with the prior coaches team.
     
  17. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the guy that was fired from the Bears??
     
  18. Steelresolve

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    Listen I will just settle for an actual DC and new line coach and a mandate from Rooney to let the dam assistants coach. Tomlin is a good HC if he stays in his lane. The biggest problem is he has an ego problem. He will not hire anyone that is a threat to him. That has to be the reason. He is not unintelligent but yet his record of hiring coordinators and assistants is dismal. Bill Cowher had Dom Capers, Dick Lebeau and Marvin Lewis on his defensive staff all at the same time.
     
  19. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever heard the saying that “if a coach takes the fans advice, he’ll be sitting with them the next year?” This exact time last year, every fan in Philly wanted Sirianni fired. This time last year Stafanski was waiting to pick up another Coach of the Year award. I’m not saying Tomlin does not need to improve things, but the stupid “fire the coach” for a coordinator from a team that has have nearly every top five draft pick for the last 30 years crowd does not get that personnel matter. Injuries matter, draft position matters. Just this week Belichek has been speaking out about the need for a lottery system in the NFL. He basically said that a successful team ( meaning one that does not lose 12 games) does not have a chance of getting real talent from the draft, and only end up with those players after they are hurt, depressed or too far gone from being beaten to death for three - four years. A team has to lose its way to success, that includes the Chiefs. These bottom feeders draft great players and do nothing with them, then trade them to collect more picks and players. They almost never win, they play for draft day and new player shirt sales. Imagine being able to draft Nabors, Daniels, Robinson or Will Anderson. You can be a victim of your own success. How you think Buffalo got their guy or Cincinnati? You have to tank in this NFL generation to find you guy.
     
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  20. Chinchilla

    Chinchilla Well-Known Member

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    Hey all,

    Honest question for respectful debate...not trying to spitball against anyone's position.

    Who would you want as a Tomlin replacement?

    I know mostly everyone wants him "retired" but can you name your top 3 alternate choices?

    I dont have access to all the stats but we all see how the bottom tier teams go through HC almost every three years ...replacing them with the sexy choice like a OC/DC that was top tier where I bet the % of them becoming successful (.600) record if the sample size is 3 years.

    Of course there are outer layers or exceptions but my point is I just dont know of anyone maybe outside the Lions OC or the Vikings DC (Flores) that is up for consideration.

    Within the organization I dont see anyone who has established themselves as a worthy consideration.

    Andy Reid finally got the monkey off his back with SB wins but does he get credit for the development of Mahomes or is Mahomes a generational talent that makes the entire cast and coach better?

    Im sure you have seen this also but lurking other fan bases...they want to blow up the entire organization every bad loss. ha

    Thoughts?
     
  21. forgotten1

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    Look 3 threads down :smiley1:
     
  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    qb we will have zero. RB neither are under contract. a wr in his last year. the offensive line has a couple of new players on the interior. the tackle spots are up in the air. we have an aging LG in his last year of contract. that is a lot to replace.

    defense: cam is old. minkah is not the same player he once was. watt is still good but these injuries every year will start to take a toll, plus his last contract is winding down. the d-line needs additions. the DB's will lose jackson or he will cost a pretty penny. if not we have half the field not accounted for. porter will be in year 3 of 4. elliott for one more year. there is a lot to add too and only so much money to go around. many of these spots are going to be expensive.

    i guess it's possible but would you want to come from what say the lions have going and walk into this mess. sure we have a decent core but that core will be changing and aging quickly. :cool:
     
  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  24. PWP

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    I actually would like a Combo a 1 A and 1 B type thing ...One who loves to throw the ball and 1 who loves to run the ball ..Put them in a room let them combine to make a new playbook..https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/miami-fl/2024.html The OC from there as my 1 A and the OC from here as 1 B https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish....

    As you can see 1 has a massive air attack and the other has 3 RBS with over a hundred runs in 1 season.. So a Air Raid/ space running game screens quick outs , throws to the RBS.. and then the Power Running game / PA to use those great Air Raid route trees..

    It will never happen but being we was dreaming ,I think these 2 could create a new NFL attack that would be hard to guard for a few seasons at least..
     
  25. hmmmmm

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    Literally anyone. A new owner would be great also
     
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