Who is the greatest QB in Steelers history?

Some of y'all only look at Superbowl rings on a hand and ignore film, statistics and time of play.

And then some of y'all undermine the steel curtain as of just a defense who was good.....
- They destroyed the Vikings to getting a ring. Where they held the Vikings to 17 yards and 119 total yards.
- They sacked HOF QB staubach seven times. And 3 interceptions. For a Superbowl win.
- they literally win games where they scored the points. And win games where the kicker only got a FG.


I really think so many here would say Roy Gerela is the best kicker and completely ignore Boswell. Heck some of y'all might forget why Anderson jersey is retired for....... And that's not a knock on Bradshaw or Roy. They were great. But they're not the best.

 

So Gilman/hanratty having us get to the post season meant nothing, eh?

 

I swear some of y'all don't even know about the first few seasons of Bradshaw being known for his interceptions and being erratic.

y'all totally disqualify Gilman/hanratty getting us to the post season in 74. While 2 of our 3 loses cane from Terry. While Gilman/hanratty had less games lost.

No I'm not saying Terry sucks. I think he's great. But he's not #1

 

Agree 1000%...I asked this to a Steelers fan at work the other day, though: If Ben played for the Emperor & Bradshaw played for Tomlin (basically trading places in time), how many SB Rings would Ben have ended up with and how many would Bradshaw have ended up with?

 

Let's not pretend Ben played wearing a Tom Brady skirt

Ben was the toughest QB in the league during his career

Haloti Ngata broke Bens nose. No flag . Ben went to the sideline wiped the blood away, they reset his nose and led the comeback win... with Isaac REDMAN scoring the go ahead

Not trying to nitpick your post... but Bradshaw never played a game against Marino or Moon.. he was more Ken Anderson, Stabler and Dan Fouts... and Staubach was in the NFC so did not see him often..... also Ben had Brady and Peyton on the AFC... two of the best to ever play

The biggest difference IMO that is not brought up is FREE AGENCY and the SALARY CAP which did not start until 93... that 70s team never had to worry about keeping the band together.

HACK

 

Bradshaw had all those HOFers because it was pre-free agency and pre-salary cap. Can’t have that kind of team with the rules Ben played under. We just just be happy as fans that we had both of them.

 

Have to disagree that Roy Gerela was great. I remember holding my breath on extra points with that guy. I think his range was about 38 yards and he boomed kickoffs to the 15 yard line with regularity.

 

And for those saying that Bradshaw played with HOFers it seems that you’re implying that Ben has played with scrubs. Just think of all of the great players supporting Ben over the years. AB, Bell, Bettis, Hines, Santonio, Heath, Pouncey to name a few. Ben has had a darn good supporting cast!

 

I think NOD was a good quarterback, not a great one and definitely doesn’t belong in the conversation with Terry and Ben. The Steelers could win with O’Donnell and if he hadn’t been such a greedy idiot I believe he could have possibly had a shot at another Super Bowl or two with that team. He spent his last two years trying to get out of Pittsburgh. The year before the Jets signed him he signed a restricted tender with Tampa Bay which the Steelers matched. He should have hung around and tried to redeem himself but he was too much of a short-sighted fool to do that and instead cemented his legacy as the guy that threw away Super Bowl XXX! Still pissed over that one…ruined a nice little romantic getaway my wife and I were having.

 

Come on....those D were good ,but 2 compare them 2 the Steel Curtain is freaking unbelievable.
You are going 2 get maybe 3 guys off that whole entire team that actually played more than one Year with Ben into the HOF(that's including Ben), and Your comparing them 2 a Defense that had 5 for sure HOF that where around most of Bradshaws career....not counting the 4 HOF offensive player. Most of His career, but I'm suppose 2 believe that doesn't make a difference...
Plus one played for One Coach...who had 4 SBs.
While the other played for 2 coaches, and so far has won both coaches only SBs.

 

1st. You are comparing good cast of players 2 ten ....let me repeat that....10 HOF players???
2nd....A lot lot of those players you just named did not play a quarter of Ben's career.
Bettis(2 years), Santonio (4 years),and Bell(5 years).
See making Me stick up for one over the other.

 

Freaking Winner

 

He gets attention by pissing people off, which is really his only talent.

 

Yup. To be fair, kickers weren't nearly as good then as they are now, but Roethlisberger had far better kickers through most of his career.

 

But how does that generate revenue

I turn him off when I hear him

I’m also old and grumpy and probably not the marketing demographic

He got ostracized to some radio station I can’t listen to but unfortunately now he is popping up on the DVE morning show which I like

And I still turn it off

 

I'm far from a marketing expert, but shock jocks do generate attention. That generates revenue. That's my best guess.

 

Holy molly

You answered that quickly

 

Yes, and don't forget the Deebo almost 100 yrd TD in the SB against the Cardinals. Steelers D was good for most of Ben's career. He stunk up the joint in the SB against the Packers too. Can't forget about that. Love Ben but TB was the Chit!

 

I'm trying to be kind and not to harsh. I've seen a couple here get their feathers ruffled in another thread when I said what I said about Terry not being #1 in my book.

 

Being a "seasoned" (old) guy, I had the privilege of watching Bradshaw's whole career. IMHO, TB IS the greatest Steeler QB, no contest.

 

Oddly enough, I don't really remember much about watching Bradshaw live. I know I watched the last two Super Bowls he played in, but only have vague memories of them. I have re-watched them since, but I've seen only a tiny fraction of his career.

On the other hand, I saw all but one or two games of Roethlisberger's career. Maybe that makes me more aware of his flaws. I think they are comparable guys playing in different eras. Both had fantastic arm talent. Both were strong and tough. Both probably made more than their share of bonehead plays, at least relative to the truly elite quarterbacks of all time, but they are somewhere in the second tier anyway. Nobody should be discussing either of them as the greatest quarterback of all time, but both are probably somewhere in the top 20 and arguably right around the same place.

 

Ben is hands down. We had many great defensive units in the 90’s and early 2000s that just couldn’t get the jump done. Ben comes in and that missing piece is suddenly there. Ranked up there all time in stats, sorry but he surpassed terry as a pure qb

 

Who voted other is what I’m wondering lol. And why ?

 

Ben had 418 TD passes and 211 interceptions compared to Bradshaw's 212 TD'S and 210 picks. Ben threw for 206 more TD'S than Bradshaw with only one more interception.
Once Ben got the starting job his rookie season he kept it for 18 years. Bradshaw lost his job to at times Terry Hanratty and Joe Gilliam.