which option do you like better?

I think I am on record saying I don't want a receiver in the 1st. which way is better? taking evans or Benjamin in the 1st or taking 2 solid wrs later? I would love to get la'damien Washington and kevin norwood in later rounds. Washington is as fast as any wr in the draft but is raw. norwood, all he does is catch big passes. he is a team leader and is a chain mover. I don't know if two rookie receivers can make the roster though? if sanders goes and it looks like he will, can two crack roster or do we just take one wr early and say we are done?

 

If Evans is there at #15 you take him he's probably the second best receiver in the draft. I don't think they will draft 2 Wr's too many other needs they could try to re-sign Cotchery and use Moye or Justin Brown. There's a talent dropoff between Evans, Benjamin and those other guys like Washington and Norwood who will be late round picks.

 

you think evans is better than Matthews?

 

I agree. Take a WR in the first three rounds and sign Cotchery back and we will be fine, no need to draft two. IMO.

 

I'd really like to go Defense in the first, but if Evens is there at 15 I think we gotta take him.

 

I'd prefer a WR in round 2. The guys that could be there (Robinson, Moncrief, Matthews, Bryant, Adams) are not significant drop offs to Benjamin or Evans. I actually think that Matthews and Moncrief in particular are more "NFL ready" and would contribute at a higher rate more quickly that either of the top "big WR's". I know I've been hating on Benjamin, but in all honesty I wouldn't hate it if we took Evans or Benjamin... we would just have to curb our expectations on how quickly they will be "the man". Both have work to do to be able to consistently beat NFL corners. In particular they need to improve their route running if they want to get open in the NFL. You just can't get open based on height alone, and neither are fast enough to do it on speed alone. Either of them could turn out to be fantastic football players though.

With that being said, I'd rather trade back and take Matthews or just straight up take the best DB (FS or CB) on the board and take one of the guys I mentioned before in the second round. This draft is just too deep at WR to take a guy at #15 unless we thought he was going to be a stud.

 

this.

 

I'd have to go with Evans. He could be special. The only way I wouldn't take Evans is if Gilbert's still there. Of course that's me. I honestly can't see the Steelers take a CB at 15. Even though the cupboard is almost completely bare.They have a very strong tradition of devaluing that position.

 

I know you have and I am right there with ya. he is the only wr I want early. I thought maybe 2nd but after combine I don't think he makes it there. I got to meet the kid when vandy came to Tennessee. super nice kid and I really thought he was taller than 6'3. him and a few other vandy players stopped by childrens hospital

 

I know you weren't asking me but that's what I want at 15. dix would start right away and then you can get wr in 2nd or 3rd. do you like him there?

 

I would prefer to either take a WR at #15 then in the second round take a CB, or take a CB at #15 then take a WR in the second round. I think option number 1 is better because the rest of the draft you can focus on fixing the defense.

 

For me, the Steelers will do what they always do. The will figure out who they can't pass on and hope one of them falls. They then will look at the 2nd tier, see if it is likely any of them will be there when they draft and then use that to put together a draft strategy.

 

I agree. I think anyone outside of Watkins is a reach. Like you said while both guys have the physical skills and potential they have a long way to go. I'd really like to see both guys do more work between the numbers. I want a complete receiver at 15 not a jump-ball specialist. Give me a savy route runner that may be a couple of inches shorter and weighs a few pounds less any day of the week.if I'm drafting a WR that high he should be the type of WR that steps on the field day 1 and never looks back. IMO neither of those guys are ready for that. Like you said just way too much depth to not take advantage of that fact. The D has more holes to fill...

 

as I said in another thread brandin cooks. speed , toughness, strength, route running , just not a tree. cooks, wheaton, AB as the three starters. wheaton in the slot. the kid was productive and won the award as the top receiver in the country. you want tall, it would be a tall task to cover these three all game long. it also makes a team cover bell and heath with LB'ers or safeties. also mismatches. keep moye and brown and spaeth as a red zone package for the height around the goal line and blocking for bell down there. very hard to defend.

 

I like Cooks he's explosive but while I agree somewhat that we don't need "trees" we do need a guy with some size . There are plenty of them to be had though from the 2nd on( Matthews,Moncrief,Robinson,Adams,Bryant )and a few more lesser known guys that could be had a little later too. Not everyone is on the giant DB craze yet ,so I would still like someone who can create a size mismatch.

 

I'm on record and to this day I ain't changing.......

Justin Gilbert Rd 1. Period!!! What he can do for a team is equal to what Clowney or Mack will do. He will solidify a position, make splash plays and create turnovers. His added value on ST CANNOT be overlooked!!!!


With the depth of this draft at WR in RD 2 we'll still get a pro-bowl weapon @ WR.


Cajun-

 

I was with you yesterday, no that's out the window.

After I saw the WR group I thought we can get a CB in 1, and WR in 2. However, Gilbert just ran a 4.35, he's going in the top 12 picks. Dennard could be great in certain schemes, but not ours. He's too stiff to run with receivers when he can't get up and jam them at the line.

Kyle Fuller is a possibility but he doesn't have the ceiling that Kelvin Benjamin does.

 

Looking at the teams that are drafting in front of us I only see one team that may take Gilbert before us and that's Det. Det needs help at OLB/OT/ WR to compliment Megatron and CB.

I think with the depth of CB in this draft top teams ( unfortunately Steelers too ) may draft a different need and CB in Rds 2/3. If Gilbert is there @ 15 we must draft him. I can't say that about either safety of Mosely.

If Gilbert is gone then maybe the BPA@ WR ( unless Mack/Barr is there) and then CB in Rd 2.

Cajun-

PS- I will shoot my TV and post the pick if we draft Dee Ford or Louis Nix @ # 15