what will they do

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/12/jason-worilds-takes-ownership-of-left-side/


what will become of this?

do they have any choice but to keep him?

Woodley is not built for the right side and if so what will happen with JJ?

do we have 3 guys that are left side only?

could JJ play inside next to Timmons?

do we draft another one to play the right side?

can carter take over on the right side? I'm not worried about what he did as a starter last year at the beginning of the season, most players evolve. carter did show me in the last preseason game that he is capable of getting to the qb. again though another player going into his final year of a contract next year and if he plays well, we are in the same boat.

do we eat Woodley's big contract and try to keep a better player? it will be difficult to do. I am not of the thinking that we just can't cut Woodley because of his cap hit. we do it all the time with players. what say you?

 

How is cutting Woodley going to help us sign Worilds ?

 

it does free up money for next year even though it hit's us with dead money.

 

What about the first year? If you cut Woodley even after June first you still end up spending the same amount of money cap wise to replace him with Worilids when you factor in the dead money. And Woodley's gone so you need another OLB, how much is that going to cost?

 

They can use the franchise tag on Worilds that's one way to keep him, probably not going to happen though they don't seem to use it very often.

 

What would the have to pay him if they do that?

 

I'm not sure about the dollar amount.

 

you have a starter for one thing. (worilds). we have JJ and carter still under contract. we will have to draft another OLB maybe a mid to late rounder. if we keep Woodley and lose our starter( worilds) we will have to draft a higher draft pick anyway, which will cost more. Woodley has lost his spot according to the article. does it make more sense in keeping the highest paid guy to not start? or do you just go with carter and a low level guy making us a worse defense? kind of a pick your poison scenario.

 

Get creative. Line up with 3 LOLBers and none on the right. Put two of them with their hands down and go back to the late 80s days of the 5 man front line.

 

The best I could find was $9.6M for franchise tag and $8.6M for the transition tag...these are 2013 numbers of course, so they will surely be a little higher next year.

 

Im sorry, $8.3M for the transition tag
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ing-rules-types-and-values-for-every-position

 

How is he the wrong size for ROLB? Too tall? He's 2" taller than harrison and shorter than Tamba Hali. He's only 5-10lbs lighter than Harrison as well. I just don't understand that logic as these aren't huge physical deficiencies. There's another article written by the same guy touting Woodley's performance on the right side.

 

I think they cut woodley to help keep Worilds. They will have $8M more to pay Worilds in 2014, $5M in 2015, and $12M in 2016. if they keep him they will need someone else to replace him for the 1/4 season he always misses anyways.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...rojections-position-outside-linebacker-charge

 

we don't have money to franchise tag anybody , we should eat the woodley dead money in two years (post 1 june cut ) and sign worilds with a fat sb and low base salary (cap) in the first two years . that's if the front office like worilds more than woodley .. who knows what they think -

 

They still have to be able to carry both salaries until June 1st. Even if they can get Worilds cap hit for 2014 down in the 3-4 million range they will still have to come up with 16-17million in cap space until June 1st. Being that we're already 6-7 million over the cap it isn't going to happen.

 

there will be a lot of cuts and some restructure .

 

Restructuring just extends our cap issues for yet another year. Lots of cuts? To create that type of space they would have to cut the likes of Heath, Ike, Troy P, Timmons...

 

In an ideal world, we could keep all three. But that is not likely to happen. During Cowher's tenure we would lose one FA after another, while frustrating, the team always had the next guy to step up. Often players took their big contract somewhere else and didn't live up to them. Throughout Tomlin's tenure, we've kept and paid players. Which has us in this situation where they are old, slow, and expensive. Perhaps, the best thing for the team over the long run is to let Worlids be paid by someone else, while Jones plays and Woodley's replacement spells both gaining experience.

 

You're correct about players leaving during the Cowher years and them being resigned with Tomlin. There's a good reason for that, they had a championship caliber team and paid to keep it together and make a run. It worked out pretty well too. You know 3 Super Bowl appearances in 6 years.

 

we can cut levi brown and save 6 mil. right off the bat. that already puts us around the cap level. they are adding 3 mil. to the cap. they should be able to get to where they need until then. they did that with colon, designating him as a june 1 cut.

 

Willie's cap hit was 7+ million, Woodley's is nearly twice that at 14million.

 

I'm not comparing their money but the move they made. don't forget harrisons money was on the hit list too. so was max's.

 

Starks was an unrestricted free agent in 2013. All I'm saying is y'all can hope and pray that Woodley gets cut, but it isn't going to happen. It makes zero fiscal sense for the team to do so.

 

The more I think about it, it may not be so bad to retail Worilds and keep Woodley around another year to ease his cap hit. The tags above, 8.3/9.6, are ridiculously high to retain Worlids. I seriously doubt he will command anywhere near that kind of money in FA. Similar to Keenan Lewis last year, his body of work is very spotty until just recently. I doubt any other team will offer him anything approaching that and I would personally strangle Kevin Colbert if he did.

I know its not exactly and apples to apples comparo, but for reference Kennan Lewis got a 5 year 25.5M deal last year and counts only 2.2M against the cap this year while the franchise number for CBs was a hefty $10.8M. It may be entirely possible to offer Worlids a cap friendly deal for 2014 and retain all 3 OLBs for another year allowing for experimenting with JJ or LW on the inside.

 

this is the 2013 season.???????????? the move was last season. max was on the books for dead money of 2 mil.. harrisons 5+ mil. and colons 2.4 or something like that. we got under the cap then and freed up money before the june 1 cut down date.

we ate over 9 mil. then with 3 mil less in cap allowance. with Woodley and colon this year we would again be around 9 mil. in dead money.