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What the experts are predicting

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by Blast Furnace, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. RPO IZSB

    RPO IZSB Well-Known Member

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    Senquez Golson's tape blows Artie Burns out of the water... and he's a superior athlete. But yet.... we have no real talent in the secondary (unless we draft a project in Artie Burns). Dumb.
     
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  2. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin

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    We should add a "Super Agree" for when the agree rating just doesn't cut it.
     
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  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    But.... he's short
     
  4. MorrisFoster

    MorrisFoster Well-Known Member

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    I also would not want a 2nd round DB. I'd rather have a 5th rounder like Sherman or Josh Norman or better yet undrafted like Chris Harris and Malcolm Butler.

    Right?
     
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  5. SubtropicalSteeler

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    I agree completely about the tape. Golson was a highlight machine, lots of picks, etc. Not so sure about being a superior athlete. Burns was an elite track star in college on top of football. Also, you can't teach size (I know, I know, it isn't the only important thing, but Burns has a much larger frame to work with). In any event, I would love Burns in the second... not a huge fan at #1. I would be incredibly pleased with Billings at # 1 and Burns at #2.
     
  6. MorrisFoster

    MorrisFoster Well-Known Member

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    Don't be disappointed when the Steelers don't draft a CB in round one.

    Since 1980 the Steelers have drafted Woodson, Figures and Scott in the 1st.

    Every year it's "We need a CB in the 1st!" Hahaha.

    I can't wait for draft day.
     
  7. RPO IZSB

    RPO IZSB Well-Known Member

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    that's fair. Burns might have more generic athletic gifts, but it certainly doesn't translate to football athletics at this point...

    they ran the same 4.46 40, but Golson topped him in most other combine measurable, even though Artie did most of the additional events at his pro-day (favorable).

    Golson v Burns
    6.81 v 6.96
    4.2 v 4.3
    15 reps v 7 reps
    33.5 v 31.5
    120 v 124

    Im all about Burns in the 2nd.... after we take Billings in the first. I'd be disappointed with Burns in the 1st though.
     
  8. SubtropicalSteeler

    SubtropicalSteeler Member

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    We are in vigorous agreement, then. Thanks for the figures, I hadn't seen Burns' workout numbers yet. Should be a fun night tomorrow!
     
  9. Ender

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    Me too! Still remember leafing through Football Digest and Pro Football Weekly all the way back in Jr. High in April every year. I absolutely love draft season.
     
  10. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

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    Not a real bad scenerio. Burns is intriguing as hell. Seems like everyone really considers him a big project but I dont think his learning curve will be as steep as others do.
     
  11. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    We do need real talent on the backside, but who do you see that's a better option that's a real possibility? Unless some shaking up goes down, BP's vs needs may leave us reaching if the 1st pick is secondary related
     
  12. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

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    But dobbler, that's what we have the greatest GM in the league for. He'll know who that stud DT is in the second round that will come in and contribute to our D-line rotation. Have no fear; K. Colbert is here. :smile:
     
  13. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    Still though why reach for 2nd or 3D tier talent in the first just s,o you can say we went secondary? I've been screaming for backend picks for years I know the feeling, but I don't really see much that will be left unless there is a shakeup in the first. Go steelers do yinz selves right
     
  14. 58stillers

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    interestingly (NOT) mike mayock picked Eli apple for us in his mock tonight.... And I don't think billings was in the first round at all..... Kinda happy... Mayock can be such a moron
     
  15. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Mayock took Apple for us and left Jackson on the board. If Apple and Jackson are both available at 25, I think Jackson is the pick. My hunch is based on Jackson being a Senior and us having met with Jackson (dinner after his pro day) and I haven't seen it reported that we've met with Apple. Of course Apple has the Ohio State thing going for him, but I'm guessing Jackson is higher on our board. Just my hunch.
     
  16. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Well, of all of the online/TV draft pundits, Mayock tends to have one of the most consistently high scoring mocks. Also, he has Billings as his #44 ranked player.
     
  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i'd like to have justin simmons somewhere. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th i don't care, but i think he'd be a great addition to our backend. 1. joseph 2. simmons then do what they want. that alone should help the corners we have. :cool:
     
  18. Dean

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    neither Jackson or Apple is a reach. But if neither were there, then I'm all for the trade down. Jackson has the highest ceiling in this cornerback class next to Ramsey IMO.
     
  19. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I would not take Apple over Jackson. I'm skeptical that Jackson even makes it to #25 though.
     
  20. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you; The Raiders (for one) are all over Jackson. :(

    Dolphins too.
     

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