What exactly does Tomlin do?

First, the combination of Ben and MT makes for without a doubt the worst clock management duo in the NFL! Maybe even down through college and HS football (ok, exageration I know). It is to the point that all you can do is laugh at the wasted timeouts and the non-timeouts in critical situations. Worst I have ever seen. Second, last night he absolutely showed he has zero control of his QB. Rumor is he wanted to take him out but Ben said no. Sorry #7, not your call. Mt HAS to make that decision for him. Inexcusable to let him in there after it was 20-3 to get sacked 4 more times.

I am neither for or against MT as the coach, but show me you have control of the coordinators and can influence the players when you need to.

 

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Stands on the sidelines and encourages his players to make some "SPLASH" plays all the while relying on an inept OC with really no game plan. After zero adjustments throughout the game he then meets with the media and begins his politically correct speech. Thats it in a nutshell as far as I know.

 

Tomlin wins, and when he screws up he admits to it. Last time I checked he has never had a losing season and has been to 2 superbowls in 5 years. He knows it was bad game from top to bottom by everyone including the coaches. I'd take Mike Tomlin over many coaches any day of the week, and don't give me bull about not motivating players, these guys are professionals if they need motivated to play, they won't be Pittsburgh Steelers for long.

 

He wins.

 

At twice the rate he loses to be exact. 53-25. Plenty of owners would take that over their current coach.

 

The only problem I have with Tomlin was not having the balls to sit Ben. YOU'RE the HC.

The game plan seemed ok to me, execution was a big fat F, starting with Ben.

 

I don't question him Starting Ben. I think that was a call that anyone would make who wants to take advantage of the opportunity to seize the #1 seed. However, I would question him not pulling him either after the 2nd interception OR after the sack/fumble.

Ben's history of heroic performances when it is on the line would lead any coach to want the franchise qb in the game. However, not pulling him was probably a mistake.

 

ben and the defens wins , tomlin is a pr guy and help on the draft

 

Mike, I agree with you 100%!!

 

You're absolutely right. Tomlin has NOTHING to do with 53 wins in 78 games. Anyone could have done it. Just throw Ben and our defense out onto the field and let them play. Think about how much money it would save the Rooney family. Someone call Art and tell him that his players don't need Tomlin and the coaching staff. Just let them come up with their own discipline, their own gameplans, and their own team vision. They'll do just fine.

If it were only one season, I could see it but - again - incase you haven't read above or in other threads. With Tomlin as head coach, the Steelers are 53-25. They are 5-2 in the playoffs. They have been to 2 out of the last 3 Super Bowls, winning one. They have had two defensive players of the year, won 3 of the last 4 division titles and been to the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years. All of this with a head coach who does nothing but PR and help out on draft day.

If Tomlin were let go, he wouldn't get out of the Steelers building before he had an offer to be the head coach of a new team. Many owners who are HAPPY with their current head coach would FIRE their coach to have Tomlin lead their teams. The whole idea that the Steelers should get rid of him are absolutely LAUGHABLE considering his record.

 

Sometimes he talks so good I think he's running for president.

 

Yeeeeeaaaahhhh.... BTW... I don't want that bridge you're selling, either...

 

Tomlin is... what's that word? Mature. That's it.

This is guy who isn't looking for anyone to blame. He admits the shortcomings of both himself and his team, and works to correct them. He doesn't whine about terrible calls by the ref, or illegal practices by the opposition that aren't noticed/flagged by the refs. He's a man who realizes all the resources he needs to win are within himself and his team.

It's called a winner's attitude. And that's why he's been to two Superbowl's already and has one ring... And all within 5 years. And he's led his team to the post-season... Again.

And he has somehow mangaged to do this with an O-Line that we all know is made of tissue paper.

 

OK He wins. I get that but he doesn't take the easiest path to get there. Often times the losses are completely avoidable if there were some adjustments. He should have pulled Ben after the second interception. Instead he leaves the decision up to the player, who was very noticably not performing well. He didn't reel him in either. Instead they continue with same game plan from beginning to end which is chuck the ball all over the place and hope the OLine can hold(which they couldn't) and for Ben to scramble (Which he couldn't).
The run game is so quickly abandoned that it becomes predictable.
Tomlin shouldn't be fired but he should really look at other OC's around the league and send BA packing.

 

Is there an easy path to winning? I know you're not saying he should be fired, but I'm just not quite sure how you make winning YEAR AFTER YEAR easy. It's NOT easy to manage a 53-man roster year after year with free-agency, injuries, rookies etc. As Tomlin likes to say - "Style points count for nothing." It's the complete body of work we have to look at at this point. And winning 53 out of 78 games, 3 out of 4 division titles, playoffs 4 out of 5 years and SB 2 out of 3 years is a pretty impressive start to a head coaching career. Maybe he doesn't take the "easy" path - if there is one - but he has provided us with a LOT of good football teams over the past 5 years.

 

AMEN!!!

 

Tomlin's just the team referee. Everyone knows Lebeau runs the defense and I seriously doubt Tomlin has much knowledge to offer Lebeau. Everyone knows that Arians and Ben run the offense. Tomlin walks the sidelines looking for that one pose to succeed "The Chin". A head coach is only as good as his assistants. Talk to me about how good a coach Tomlin is after Lebeau retires, then let's see the results.

Not to be negative, but a majority of this team's leaders are still Cowher's. Winning with someone else's talent doesn't make one a winner. Look at Barry Switzer, was he a winner because he won a SB with Jimmy Johnson's team? Heck no.

I haven't personally made any determination about Tomlin yet, I think it's premature to evaluate him as a coach because of the reasons stated above.

 

Tomlin shows no emotion whatsoever. No yelling on the sidelines at refs, No angry pep talks at his players, no dirty looks at his coordinators and he really doesn't defend his players through fines and suspensions. YEP, that sounds like maturity to me, too much for a head coach perhaps?

 

Tomlin has plenty of defensive knowledge to offer. Just a referee?! C'mon. Tomlin cut his teeth on defense before coming to Pittsburgh.

Wiki: In 2002 and 2005, the Buccaneers led the NFL in total defense (fewest yards allowed per game)—during Tomlin's tenure, the defense never ranked worse than sixth overall. When the Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII in January 2003, the team recorded five interceptions, three of which were returned for touchdowns.

 

To hands off for my liking, Clock management? Questionable strategy?
Lets the inmates run the asylum? Yes I think this is what Mike Tomlin does.

 

"To hands off for my liking, Questionable strategy? Lets the inmates run the asylum?"
That's what people believe when they DON'T know the inner workings of the team. It's irrational & incorrect thinking.

How is it that people forgot the times when there was good clock management? Not one coaches gets every decision correct 100% of the time.

 

Yea we can see that LOL!

 

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I presume he has a ring with Tampa as well.

We all scream and shout at the refs when we watch the game. We all despair at the team's bad performances, and all rejoice in the team's good ones. Do I want the HC to be doing that, too? No, because when I scream and shout I know I'm letting off steam, usually slightly intoxicated, and it's all to very little effect. That's the difference between us fans and the HC.

That doesn't make him untouchable, granted, it's just that I tihnk all this talk about motivation and emotion is BS.

As I may have said before - do I want Rex Ryan running the Steelers? No.

 

Presumably, though, people will still credit any defensive success to Lebeau's legacy. And the team's leaders are Cowher's because team leaders are usually the older players. So it stands to reason.

Tomlin hasn't made the best decisions with assistant coaches yet. A few good calls in the off-seasonc ould change that though... We can hope...