What are your expectations this year for the Steelers defense?

This is not a problem for Dotson with the rams....Coaching matter

 

The rams did not make the playoffs in the previous 12 years before the McVay era too!

 

Not particularly

 

But yet... Tomlin is a shoe-in for the HOF winning big games 16+ years ago with Cowher's players, while McVay still has work to do.

IMO, Tomlin is not a HOF-caliber coach. He doesn't deserve to get in based on his post season performance after 2010.

 

Actually no not in the case of Dotson

It was a change in blocking scheme

 

Because you know I'm right.

 

Do people think he's a shoe in?

He probably gets in eventually (though I wouldn't put him in). But he should have to wait. Probably a decade at least.

Cowher (who has basically the same resume) had to wait 13 years (although I guess only 8 years of eligibility?). And he really only got in because of the Centennial Class (and probably because Fox was getting Johnson and CBS pays the NFL's bills too).

I think Cowher (and Tomlin) were both good coaches. But I don't think either should be in the hall.

Vermeil either.

Here's a list of HoF coaches and when they were indicted (at least I'm pretty sure that's what they date was in the list I found). Only 5 on 1st ballot (I can't imagine anyone believes Tomlin should go in on the first year of eligibility). Bill B should have been 1st ballot (even though he was a cheater). And Reid should go on the first ballot after the success with Mahomes in KC.

• George Halas 1963
• Earl Lambeau 1963
• Jimmy Conzelman 1964
• Guy Chamberlain 1965
• Steve Owen 1966
• Paul Brown 1967
• Earle Neale 1969
• Vince Lombardi 1971
• Ray Flaherty 1976
• Weeb Ewbank 1978
• Sid Gillman 1983
• Tom Landry 1990
• Chuck Noll 1993
• Bill Walsh 1993
• Bud Grant 1994
• Joe Gibbs 1996
• Don Shula 1997
• Marv Levy 2001
• George Allen 2002
• Hank Stram 2003
• Fritz Pollard 2005
• John Madden 2006
• Bill Parcells 2013
• Tony Dungy 2016
• Bill Cowher 2020
• Jimmy Johnson 2020
• Tom Flores 2021
• Dick Vermeil 2022
• Don Coryell 2023