What are Reasonable Expectations for Mike McCarthy in year one with the Steelers?

S.T.D · Apr 11, 2026 at 2:23 PM

pczach said: ↑

There are people saying Ben wasn't great. He may be in your eyes, but he's not in everyone else's. That's the point. They blame HIM for every significant loss. If you can read through this thread and not see that there are some here that want to blame him for every single loss, then I don't know what to tell you.

I have said that Ben has played crappy games. I have said that Mike Tomlin was a great coach, but things kind of slipped away from him a bit at the end of his career. The points I am making about having a nearly decade-long stretch of the worst playoff defense in the history of football is a real thing. That doesn't mean that I don't like Tomlin and respect him. I am grateful for his time here.

Some want to say that Tomlin can do no wrong and his players let him down, and Ben is the guy they point to most often.

I played football. I understand that it's hard to win and that all phases of the game need to bring it every single week. No one man is winning anything in the NFL. It is also very rare that one man loses anything in the NFL.

That is pretty much my entire point. That people that ***** about Tomlin too much and the people that ***** about Ben too much are being ridiculous. They won more than their fair share, and everyone should enjoy what they accomplished instead of trying to hate one of them with every post they make. We all wanted more championships, but enough of the boo-hoo crap of pointing the finger of blame at one person.

The problem is that when trying to defend one of them, I have to demonstrate that there are other forces that helped to cause the losses and I have to say that there were failures by others as well.
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I agree

MojoUW · Apr 11, 2026 at 4:28 PM

Hawaii 5-0 · Apr 11, 2026 at 6:56 PM

MojoUW said: ↑

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So fragile.

SGSteeler · Apr 11, 2026 at 7:43 PM

pczach said: ↑

There are people saying Ben wasn't great. He may be in your eyes, but he's not in everyone else's. That's the point. They blame HIM for every significant loss. If you can read through this thread and not see that there are some here that want to blame him for every single loss, then I don't know what to tell you.

I have said that Ben has played crappy games. I have said that Mike Tomlin was a great coach, but things kind of slipped away from him a bit at the end of his career. The points I am making about having a nearly decade-long stretch of the worst playoff defense in the history of football is a real thing. That doesn't mean that I don't like Tomlin and respect him. I am grateful for his time here.

Some want to say that Tomlin can do no wrong and his players let him down, and Ben is the guy they point to most often.

I played football. I understand that it's hard to win and that all phases of the game need to bring it every single week. No one man is winning anything in the NFL. It is also very rare that one man loses anything in the NFL.

That is pretty much my entire point. That people that ***** about Tomlin too much and the people that ***** about Ben too much are being ridiculous. They won more than their fair share, and everyone should enjoy what they accomplished instead of trying to hate one of them with every post they make. We all wanted more championships, but enough of the boo-hoo crap of pointing the finger of blame at one person.

The problem is that when trying to defend one of them, I have to demonstrate that there are other forces that helped to cause the losses and I have to say that there were failures by others as well.
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Good post.

There are people who say Ben isn't great... these people are nuts and are hard to take seriously. Of course Ben was great, he just wasn't the GREATEST... and that's okay. He won us two superbowls and got us to another, as well as brought us a ton of victories along the way. Ben IMO, is one of the 10-15 greatest QB's to ever play. He wasn't perfect, and had his struggles (as well as some vaild criticisms), but he was great.

Tomlin has valid criticisms too, but there are also valid arguments that he was great too. I don't necessarily think he was, but there's an argument that he was (at least a great regular season coach). He brought us a SB win, a lot of wins, and never having to feel the pain of a horrific season. Perfect? Far from it. But I don't buy the "Tomlin sucks" argument either. Its definitely somewhere in between.

mac daddyo · Apr 12, 2026 at 6:30 AM

expectations? same as every year, super bowl win.

Bubbahotep · Apr 12, 2026 at 8:38 AM

pczach said: ↑

There are people saying Ben wasn't great. He may be in your eyes, but he's not in everyone else's. That's the point. They blame HIM for every significant loss. If you can read through this thread and not see that there are some here that want to blame him for every single loss, then I don't know what to tell you.

I have said that Ben has played crappy games. I have said that Mike Tomlin was a great coach, but things kind of slipped away from him a bit at the end of his career. The points I am making about having a nearly decade-long stretch of the worst playoff defense in the history of football is a real thing. That doesn't mean that I don't like Tomlin and respect him. I am grateful for his time here.

Some want to say that Tomlin can do no wrong and his players let him down, and Ben is the guy they point to most often.

I played football. I understand that it's hard to win and that all phases of the game need to bring it every single week. No one man is winning anything in the NFL. It is also very rare that one man loses anything in the NFL.

That is pretty much my entire point. That people that ***** about Tomlin too much and the people that ***** about Ben too much are being ridiculous. They won more than their fair share, and everyone should enjoy what they accomplished instead of trying to hate one of them with every post they make. We all wanted more championships, but enough of the boo-hoo crap of pointing the finger of blame at one person.

The problem is that when trying to defend one of them, I have to demonstrate that there are other forces that helped to cause the losses and I have to say that there were failures by others as well.
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feltdeez · Apr 12, 2026 at 11:27 AM

steelersrule6 said: ↑

That wasn't the same Jags team they had a losing record and finished in last place in their division.
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yeah.. teams are never the same. New year, new team.

I didn’t read the whole thread but it looks like people are mad that some blame Ben for some of our losses. Dude had some stinkers in his career and we made of the alias of Bad Ben because some days he just didn’t look right.

It happens The man is not a God.

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