I think a blind man could see, after this year, that Ben is what makes our offense; we never saw how bad ****ner was until Ben went down. What do you think of Ben? I hated how he gained weight and looked homeless on the sidelines, but he is a winner! I hate how he "appears" to be selfish and doesn't want to help the younger QB's, but he is a winner! I hate the position we are in where we have to gamble on his old bones, but he is a winner! I hate the ugly position he put himself in early in his career, but he is a winner! I hate the stories I've heard about him at Oakmont, but he is a winner!