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Going to the practice squad means you are not on the team. You are not on the 53 man roster and you do not earn at least league minimum pay. Any team can sign you when you are on the practice squad.

 

You cannot believe the Steelers got their heir apparent?


I cannot believe you are optimistic about Mason Rudolph; anything both Colbert and Tomlin enact upon notwithstanding.



Seriously though Heinz...

 

Well yeah. Cut means you are unemployed. They ain’t not none the same.

 

Well yeah. Cut means you are unemployed. They ain’t not none the same.

 

If Dobbs gets cut he isn't owed any money except guaranteed money but Dobbs was a 4th round guy so it's probably nothing. The contract could be for 100 years, he only gets paid for the time he was actually on the team.

 

If you're Josh Dobbs, who they tell me is a pretty smart guy, and the Steelers cut you - which they have to do before they can put you on the practice squad- why would come back to them?
They'd still have 3 QBs that they like better than you, including their QB of the future. If you can't find another team that will sign you to their 53-man squad, you'd be better off signing onto the practice squad of another team that's looking for a young QB to develop.

 

What are the rules of the PS? Can you refuse? I thought if another team claimed you they had to put you on the 53 man and not their PS?

 

True. Although you'd probably also be looking at how well you were stacking up against those guys in practice (i.e. if you believe you can unseat one of them), and considering the likelihood of injury during the season, versus what your agent is telling you about interest from other teams, and the likelihood of breaking into another squad. There are a fair few QBs that will be on the practice squads who have shown more in college than Dobbs. So finding that other team looking for a young QB may not be all that straightforward.

I still think Dobbs gets cut unless his development is phenomenal, and its a shame for him as a victim of circumstance (given that Rudolph was a steal). If Jones goes, it will be either due to cap implications, or him expressing a want to pitch for a starter job somewhere else, in my view.

 

During the season, if a team claims you from a PS then they have to put you in the 53 straight away.

I don't think you an refuse if that happens?

But preseason you can refuse - seem to remember we had a guy who snubbed our PS last season, but can't remember who it was.

 

Ok so I didn't read this whole thread so if I repete someone I am sorry. It was talked about in another thread by Mac I do believe but here is the thing about cutting Jones. He is in his last year of his contract and it would free up 1.9 mil in cap space combined with Wilcox's 3.1M is a nice chunk of change.

Also we will have Dobbs and Mason to back up Ben at a great price for the next 3-4 years. Now many want to say well we are in a win now and we don't want to lose Jones as an experienced back up. I understand that but let me say this just how confident are we if Ben goes down for the playoffs in LJ? I am thinking Mason will get a lot of reps and could be just as good if not better than LJ. Add to that the fact that Dobbs will be in his 2nd season it is not like he hasn't been learning.

In the last 2 years we spent a 3rd and 4th on QB, we are a teamthat builds from the draft and takes advantage of our draft picks. We just can't let Dobbs go with not knowing if he can offer something or not. I think pre season will be big for Dobbs and if he can show he can be back up material than I think LJ has to go. jmo

 

For some reason I thought LJ had longer on his contract. If not, then there's certainly that's a tick in the "keep Dobbs" box.

 

I like the pick. Barring injury Mason will determine which QBs are kept.

Cajun

 

Last year LJ signed a 2 year deal........

 

They dont much care about who they cut, they cut 3rd round pick kraig urbik before he ever played in an NFL game, cutting a 4th rounder isnt going to bother them if they see dobbs as expendable...........

 

Practice squad is a pretty big pay cut.... if you go from Roster to PS, you might as well look for a real job in the real world.... Call it a demotion or cut, it's effectively the same thing. But yes, a PS player would have to be added to the acquiring team's 53.

 

Personally, I don't know any better than anyone else here whether or not Rudolph will pan out. I'm happy that he sounds like a Steelers fan, and hopeful that he has time to sit and learn to become an eventual starter.... but as a fan... I'm fairly short sighted, and don't think this pick or this entire draft will benefit us THIS YEAR. 5 years from now, who knows, but right now I don't see how this draft makes us any better in 2018, and that's all I care about as a fan.

 

Very good point add 3rd round Davis to that list as well

 

It was Demarcus Ayers ,Thig. He signed with New England because he thought he had a better shot making it on their 53 than he had here. Ironically with all their injuries at wr he still never got called up from the PS.

 

That’s the one! Thanks.

I’d completely forgotten about Ayers. Obviously Belichick did as well....

 

The difference is we waived Ayers and he didn't sign to our practice squad Ayers turned down the Steelers offer and signed with the Cheats. If he had signed our offer the Cheats would have had to put him on their 53.

 

Maybe, but in all honesty there'd have to be a team more interested in Dobbs then the Steelers! With an established vet (Ben), the backup with some game experience to fill-in in a pinch (jones), and the QB-of-the-future development project (Rudolph), Dobbs ain't never gettin on the 53 man roster. And if there's no better option than that in the NFL, then it's time for Mr Dobbs to call Boeing and begin designing aircraft.

 

Great point.

 

People forget... Ben was lucky to be #2 on the depth chart in 2004. Charlie Batch got hurt in the off-season of '04. Brian St Pierre was the #3 and Maddox was hurt in the Ravens game. The rest is history. Rudolph will have 2 experienced QBs ahead of him on the depth chart... if everything goes as planned.